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February 28 Information

Page protection question with arbcom decision

According to the banner at Talk:Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestry, the page seems to be under extended-confirmed restriction if I am reading it right. It says editors must be logged in with 500 edits and 30 days "tenure". But, the article is not actually protected that I can see from the protection log. Is this normal, or should be the article have extended-confirmed protection on it? RudolfRed ( talk) 00:02, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

RudolfRed the article is eligible for such protection but hasn't actually been protected. "edits by unregistered users and editors with less than 500 edits or 30 days tenure may be reverted without regarding the one revert rule." implies that such articles don't necessarily require protection. Elliot321 ( talk | contribs) 01:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Is this disambiguation page needed?

I came across the disambiguation page Tolkningarna. Note that none of the entries have their own articles. Is the disambiguation page really needed? JIP | Talk 00:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@ JIP: Yes, in my opinion. For each of the three listed articles, if that article were the only one, then the term "Tolkningarna" would be a redirect to that article. Since there are three of them, not just one, we cannot use a redirect, and a dab page is used instead. - Arch dude ( talk) 00:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ JIP: @ Arch dude:, the disambiguation was created by @ Werldwayd: two days ago. A Wikipedia search for "Tolkningarna" brings up 31 results and suggests that artists who perform cover versions on Så mycket bättre release an album called "Så mycket bättre 20XX – Tolkningarna", so Tolkningarna could be redirected to Så mycket bättre. However SMB, Lena Philipsson and Pugh Rogefeldt currently do not mention Tolkningarna. TSventon ( talk) 15:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ JIP and TSventon: Yes, since the term appears to be associated with the TV series, I now think a small section explaining it should be added to the Så mycket bättre article, and the dab converted into a redirect. - Arch dude ( talk) 15:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I would be ok to render it a redirect to Så mycket bättre. The page was created actually in 2012 by Pafcool2 as a redirect to Laleh (singer) with the note: "linking with Laleh album due to the second disc/ep called this. I understand its the Swedish for interpretations and it may need to be used for something else - perfectly fine :". It stayed like this for 9 years. So my edit after all this time in 2021 was an improvement so that it leads not just to Laleh but to a bunch of recordings. But I find a redirect to Så mycket bättre plausible. werldwayd ( talk) 16:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

How to add an image to a DYK nomination?

Domus Litonii in 2018

I recently created Template:Did you know nominations/Domus Litonii to nominate Domus Litonii for WP:DYK. I would like to add the image shown here to the nomination but I don't know how to do that, as I don't understand where to place the image to. Could someone help? JIP | Talk 02:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi JIP, right beneath the {{ DYK nompage links}} line, add the following: {{main page image/DYK|image=Domus Litonii - Marit Henriksson.jpg|caption=Domus Litonii in 2018}}
Also, be sure to add (pictured) to the hook. Hope this helps! Best, DanCherek ( talk) 05:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Optional Class Parameter

Someone recently pointed out to me that the class parameter for a Wikiproject banner is better left blank for Drafts and Redirects because those articles are likely to change in the future and the class is auto-populated simply by virtue of the article being in Draft or Redirect space. I was curious what the standard conventions for WikiProject banners in general, but I'm specifically interested in whether it would be better to have a shortened WikiProject banner for Categories and Files because they are unlikely to change, but would be auto-populated. Would a short banner without a class parameter be best or should the class be included? Or if it doesn't matter, what would you suggest? I would assume that it's best to keep a standard convention across a large number of articles so if I'm making sure it's one specific way for an entire WikiProject what would be ideal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TipsyElephant ( talkcontribs) 02:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@ TipsyElephant: You asked this question a few hours ago at Wikipedia:Teahouse#WikiProject Banners. Please don't ask the same question in multiple places at the same time. GoingBatty ( talk) 02:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ GoingBatty: At the teahouse I was directed to Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment, which says "9. What if I have a question not listed here? If you have any other questions not listed here, please feel free to ask them on the discussion page for this department; for any other issues, you can go to the main project discussion page." When I go to the discussion page it says "This page is not a forum for general discussion about Wikipedia. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this page. You may wish to ask factual questions about Wikipedia at the Reference desk, discuss relevant Wikipedia policy at the Village pump, or ask for help at the Help desk." So I figured I should ask at these locations instead. I'm still not sure if I've really gotten an answer. Is there a preferred convention for whether to include the class or omit it when the class will be auto-populated? TipsyElephant ( talk) 03:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ TipsyElephant: you were in the wrong place, Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia is a Wikiproject for coverage of articles about Wikipedia, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment is not a standardized page for discussion about assessment. I don't think anyone cares whether you fill in the class or not, if it's auto-populated - do what you want. Elliot321 ( talk | contribs) 05:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
TipsyElephant banners on Categories and Files tend to list them as "File-class", "Category-class", etc. This can be autopopulated or not (probably should be). Elliot321 ( talk | contribs) 02:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

NLC General Secretary

The General Secretary of the Nigeria Labour Congress is now Comrade Emmanuuel Okechukwu Ugboaja, Esq. Comrade Dr Peter Ozo-Eson is the immediate past General Secretary. Kindly edit this on the NLC Wikipedia Page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.159.78.236 ( talk) 04:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! You can be bold and make the edit to Nigeria Labour Congress yourself. If you need assistance with the article, the best place for you to make this request is on the article's talk page: Talk:Nigeria Labour Congress. Please provide a published reliable source if possible. Thanks! GoingBatty ( talk) 05:00, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Applying for subscription

I've forgotten where I can apply for a free subscription (to newspapers.com). Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Clarityfiend, you can apply for a subscription through the Wikipedia Library platform (that link takes you to their Newspapers.com application). See also Wikipedia:Newspapers.com for more details. Hope this helps! DanCherek ( talk) 07:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I've applied for a renewal. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

How to make a page?

How do i make a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.83.165.24 ( talk) 06:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

All articles on Wikipedia must be about subjects that are notable by our definition ( WP:N), so start by picking a notable subject. This is an absolute requirement. We will delete your article if the subject is not notable. Then, proceed to WP:YFA. - Arch dude ( talk) 06:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Reference help

How do I fix Charles Sweeny? I used the Sfnp template for the first time, but when I click on the author, it doesn't go to the full citation. Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@ Clarityfiend: You'll need to include all (up to four) authors within Sfnp, as in {{Sfnp|Roberts|Hess|2017|p=136}}. Best, DanCherek ( talk) 06:49, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Love Jihad

Hi, I wish to edit this page Love Jihad as it is unconfirmed and using derogatory terms like Islamophobiaand Conspiracy against a particular caste,creed and religion. Please help make this page better as it's very racist for such a page which tries to demean and so derogatory to exist. Please intervene in this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mb 9702 ( talkcontribs) 08:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I have posted at the editor's talk page attempting to explain why the article says what it does, — Paleo Neonate – 08:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to know the page status.

Good day! thank you for the previous responses. I would like to know if my page is under submission for a review already. kindly help. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mivida2021 ( talkcontribs) 08:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I assume this is about User:Mivida2021/sandbox. You have inserted "{{subst:submit}}" in a section header, surrounded by nowiki and code tags. This will not cause it to be submitted for review. You need to insert "{{subst:submit}}", without the nowiki tags, right at the top of the article. Maproom ( talk) 09:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia use Open Street Map

Why not use a different map software that is more reliable as Open Street Map is slow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.131.87 ( talk) 11:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

What do you suggest? -- Hoary ( talk) 12:00, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
OpenStreetMap is free. PrimeHunter ( talk) 16:44, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hello, I'm Mintu Martin from Vietnamese wikipedia. I really need your suggestions, especiallly from admin of english wikipedia. I have an member, who is argued with me, but he acts so vaguely; he is too smart not to break any rules, but somehow his acts make me annoying. Like a stalker, he always trying to find minor mistakes from me, overated them and show them to the community at Vietnames wikipedia (I bet that some admin in Vietnamese wikipedia know his dark acts, but they can't protect me because he didn't break any rules, and he has a talent of convicing people). I feel so uncomfortable and stress while seeing him acts to me like that. Is the any rules in wikipedia can protect me from this kind of people. Please, I need some advices from you, guys! Mintu Martin ( talk) 12:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

There's not a lot we can do at enwiki - a much better location would be at meta Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ( talkcontribs) 13:51, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata

FYI – added section header GoingBatty ( talk) 14:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi! I would like connect my user page to Wikidata. How I can do it? Dr Salvus ( talk) 14:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

What do you mean by "Connect my user page to Wikidata"? Dr Salvus. You can add a link to a Wikidata item (for example {{ wikidata entity link|Q4592334}} generates Wikipedia:User pages (Q4592334), which is a link to the Wikidata item that relates to Wikipedia:User pages). But I suspect that that is not what you mean. If you mean that you want there to be a Wikidata item relating to your user page, I don't think personal user pages are acceptable as Wikidata items: see d:Help:Items. -- ColinFine ( talk) 15:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus: Userspace pages cannot have Wikidata items. Help:Interlanguage links#Syntax can make links under "Languages" to your user page in other Wikipedia languages, but not to other wikis than Wikipedias. The code must be added to your user page in each language where you want links to other Wikipedias. PrimeHunter ( talk) 18:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

The Biles

Hello. Another gymnast competed successfully the Biles 02/27/2021. Gymnast Gabrielle “Brie” Clark. It is recorded on Instagram @g.breezy8. She is the 4th person to ever compete this move. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:8980:A330:68B5:C91C:65B8:6136 ( talk) 14:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Social media is not an acceptable source for this claim.A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 14:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I would like an article to be created

Hi! I would like an article to be created, an article about the film Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus. This film is mentioned on the Wiki List of submissions for the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature The film is mentioned in the section for 2021 http://webot.org/info/en/?search=List_of_submissions_for_the_Academy_Award_for_Best_Animated_Feature Wiki pages for other films on the list are created, why not for this one too? I am in a conflict of interest, so I would like someone else to create it - if possible. I kindly ask you, could it please be done? Madame xanadu ( talk) 17:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I don't see why not. Madame xanadu, Are there any reliable, independent sources that you'd like to point us to that would help in writing this article? -- Paultalk❭ 17:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Didn't you ask that here three days ago, Madame xanadu? Or was it somebody else? Either way, the reply to that said how to request an article. -- ColinFine ( talk) 18:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@ Paul, thank you for the answer! Here are some links, hopefully, it will be ok. Croatian film catalogue by the Croatian audiovisual Center has synopsis, cast & credits, list of festivals and it's here (official poster of the film is now different): https://www.havc.hr/eng/croatian-film/croatian-film-catalogue/accidental-luxuriance-of-the-translucent-watery-rebus

The film was an official nominee for the Satellite awards, in category: Motion Picture, Animated or Mixed Media https://www.pressacademy.com/2020-ipa-awards/

Considering the 93rd Academy Awards 2021 (Oscars), the film is now eligible in every category. Until few days ago it was just on the list for an animated feature.

Positive quotes and references: Michael Nordine for the Variety said:" The genre has long been viewed chiefly as a vehicle for fairytales and fables, but as long as artists like Barić are operating at the margins, it will continue to be healthily strange at its core." Variety link is here: https://variety.com/2021/film/reviews/accidental-luxuriance-of-the-translucent-watery-rebus-1234914648/#!

Los Angeles Review is here: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-02-11/review-accidental-luxuriance-translucent-watery-rebus-review?fbclid=IwAR0g-h_3jzs-k72UTLAz0gW1AGBdQrjM6C-08lWV9Gcw5TOrVWylbql66AU

Fabien Lemercier for Cineuropa: "Direction, art department, script, graphics, animation, compositing, soundtrack and editing: Croatian artist Dalibor Baric is an almost complete one-man filmmaking team. But he is most of all an incredible, utterly extraordinary artistic talent, as demonstrated by his rich and ultra-personal feature debut Accidental Luxuriance of the Translucent Watery Rebus" https://cineuropa.org/en/newsdetail/389342/

About the Film Poster: this one on this link - the visual with a female head with waterfall instead of the face) is now the official poster. How can I provide you with the clean one? (without this call for the Oscar voters etc.) How can I provide you with it? https://cineuropa.org/en/newsdetail/397855/

Would this be enough? Should I give you some more? Thanks a lot, once again!

And both of you, Paul and [ [1]], yes it was me a day or two ago creating a terrible mess while trying to edit it by myself. I didn't mean no harm. Just took me a while to understand a bit how the Wiki edit universe works! I still feel kind of lost in space so - THANK YOU! <3 Madame xanadu ( talk) 20:15, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Files from social networks

Hi. Is it possible put on Wikipedia photos from social networks? I would like upload a photo without copyright about a person. Dr Salvus ( talk) 17:48, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Dr Salvus, probably not, the policy is Wikipedia:Image use_policy#Identifying usable images. You need to show the image was public domain or freely licensed. Fair use does not apply for living people. TSventon ( talk) 17:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ TSventon: The photo I would like to take is from the person's official Instagram profile. Can it be used on Wikipedia? Otherwise can I take a picture of her when she is on television since this person is a TV presenter? Dr Salvus ( talk) 18:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Dr Salvus, You would need to show the person's official Instagram profile image was public domain or freely licensed, which is unlikely. Photographing a two dimensional object like an image on a TV screen creates a derived image and the copyright is owned by the owner of the copyright of the TV programme. TSventon ( talk) 18:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ TSventon: I'm afraid these photos may not be posted on Wikimedia Commons. Could you suggest me an alternative to put this person's photo on Commons? Dr Salvus ( talk) 18:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
There are three ways Dr Salvus. By far the most likely, if you can manage it (but harder at present!) is to go to where they appear in public and take a picture of them yourself. The second this to find a picture on the internet which is licensed with an appropriate licence - rare, but not unknown; for example I believe that some pictures on Flickr (but not all) are so licensed. Third is to contact the person and ask if there is a picture which the copyright holder (who is usually the photographer, not the subject) is willing to donate: they will have to follow the procedure in donating copyright materials. -- ColinFine ( talk) 18:46, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ ColinFine: I think the first way is impossible, the second way is difficult and the third is possible. The person I would like to have copyright-free photos of is Giorgia Rossi and this is her Instagram profile @giorgy0506, what can we do? Dr Salvus ( talk) 18:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus: As ColinFine stated, you could contact Rossi and ask if there is a picture which a copyright holder would be willing to donate. I also added some parameters to Talk:Giorgia Rossi to indicate that the article needs a photo, in the hopes that someone else may be able to obtain a photo. GoingBatty ( talk) 21:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ GoingBatty: I think that the only solution is contact Rossi. Would someone suggest me what to write in the email? Dr Salvus ( talk) 23:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus: see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission#How to ask for permission for examples. TSventon ( talk) 23:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ TSventon: Which option among those proposed on this page should I choose? Dr Salvus ( talk) 23:38, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus: it probably makes sense to write in Italian, so it:Wikipedia:Modello_richiesta_di_permesso/Immagini/Licenza_libera. There is already an article in Italian. There are fewer options on the it Wikipedia page. TSventon ( talk) 00:09, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus: You must start with the basics of copyright, which most people are reluctant to believe. Rule one, everything is copyrighted by default. Rule two, unless there is an explicit licence that permits it, you are not permitted to make a copy of copyrighted material. Rule three: there some specific exceptions to rules one and two, but they are fairly narrow. Then, we have Wikipedia rule one: we follow the law. Thus, to copy an image on the internet, you must either find the explicit license, or you must determine which exception applies. - Arch dude ( talk) 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Arch dude: Will this email give permission only for Italian Wikipedia or for all Wikis? Dr Salvus ( talk) 07:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
The permission will be everyone. It has to be under a compatible free license, which means it must be able to be used by anyone, for any purpose, at any time. This means that other people could use the image for commercial purpose or create derivative works. Dylsss( talk contribs) 10:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Dylsss: I contact her, who knows what answer he will give me? Dr Salvus ( talk) 21:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Dylsss: I contact her but she didn't answered me. How can I know if she autorized our to use her immages? Dr Salvus ( talk) 19:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus: if she does not reply, then she has not authorised the use of her images. You are asking her for a favour, so it is unreasonable to expect her to reply within 24 hours. TSventon ( talk) 19:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@ TSventon: how long do i have to wait? Dr Salvus ( talk) 19:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Dr Salvus:, your guess is as good as mine, but if you are lucky it could be a week, if unlucky never. She will have to fit in dealing with emails from the public around her paid work and may pass the request on to an assistant or to a colleague at work, who would have to read all Wikipedia's terms and conditions for images. TSventon ( talk) 19:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Nitpick: TSventon's assertion that Fair use does not apply for [photographs of] living people is misleading. Fair use is a concept of US copyright law whose criteria do not exclude "living person photographs". However, meeting the fair use criteria is necessary but not sufficient on Wikipedia; there are additional criteria listed at WP:NFCC, and #1 is generally understood to exclude photographs of living persons (because photographs of them could be created and released under a suitable license). Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Tigraan thanks for the correction, could I have said Wikipedia's fair use policy does not apply for photographs of living people? TSventon ( talk) 11:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
    • TSventon Per articles like Cheers etc you'd have to add a "in general" or something like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 13:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
      • @ TSventon: I would probably say something like Wikipedia's policy for the use of copyrighted media; "fair use" is a specific term of US copyright law, not a general term for "exceptions to copyright limitations". @ Gråbergs Gråa Sång: The rule really only applies to biographical articles. For instance, it would not have been appropriate to use File:Zardoz_zed.jpg to illustrate the biography of Sean Connery as long as that actor was alive even if no free photograph existed; however, it is plainly appropriate in the article Zardoz to illustrate the esthetics of the film, and cannot be replaced by free images of the actor that do not include the copyrighted elements.

Not sure how to tag this article

I know that this article ( SOE RF Section) has several things wrong with it, but I'm not sure about which tags to use. Any suggestions? Shotgunscoop ( talk) 17:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Shotgunscoop, please can you give examples of problems with the article, then helpers here will be able to suggest what ags are appropriate without reviewing the article from scratch. TSventon ( talk) 18:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
TSventon The ones I see are poor formatting (the entire article seems like a laundry list), insufficient context in the lead section, and pretty bad writing style/tone in general. Shotgunscoop ( talk) 19:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@ Shotgunscoop: You could use Template:Copy edit which also gives you the option to describe the issues you are concerned with. Eagleash ( talk) 20:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Shotgunscoop, I had an edit conflict with Eagleash. The article is mainly a list of SOE RF missions by year, so perhaps it could be renamed accordingly. The article was published under WP:AfC on 25 February, so you could discuss your concerns with the author and reviewer on the article talk page, bearing in mind Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. You could also choose a tag from Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup#General cleanup, but I would not recommend that for such a new article. TSventon ( talk) 20:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
There's no real reason not to tag a newish article which has issues; that's a big part of new page patrol and 'page curation' gives the option to add tags as necessary. Eagleash ( talk) 21:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Eagleash, I think it is legitimate to disagree on tagging. In general I am fairly sceptical about the value of tagging and here Shotgunscoop thinks that the lists which make up the bulk of the article are indiscriminate, which is an argument for stubbifying or deletion rather than copy editing. I agree that tagging as part of new page patrol and 'page curation' can be useful. TSventon ( talk) 22:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

possible error in Clay, Wv article

When I lived in Clay, WV in 1967-68 the state signage said unincorporated. At that time Ivydale, Clay County, WV was the only community having the incorporated status in the county. I have no idea how to check the incorporation records I ‘m sure the town of Clay could have incorporated in the 1800s as the article states and still have been unincorporated in 1967. As far as I know Clay was always the county seat. 2602:304:6E75:F670:5430:7C31:1721:BC6D ( talk) 18:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

According to our articles, Ivydale, Clay County, West Virginia is not incorporated, but Clay is. Perhaps your recollection is faulty? -- Orange Mike | Talk 20:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
You could post at the article talk page: Talk:Clay, West Virginia. Maybe someone there would have access to reliable sources. GoingBatty ( talk) 21:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Geek Squad

FYI – Heading added by Tenryuu.

Is there a difference between GEEK SQUAD and GEEK SWUAD PLUS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:548D:A600:B55D:75C2:CEFB:A21F ( talk) 19:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

As this sounds like a question that doesn't have to do with editing or using Wikipedia, the reference desk is probably where you're looking for answers. Alternatively you may have to go onto Best Buy's website. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 19:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Computer

The ten comandment of a computer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.0.78.206 ( talk) 19:37, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Did you have a question to ask about using or editing Wikipedia? — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 19:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

long under-referenced page with original research

I am a long time editor. A while back I wrote a short page on a famous math puzzle. Another editor expanded this page with a very long and extensive treatment of the underlying math that seems very excessive to me. He is a very competent editor. The page has now been flagged for original research and lack of references.

I have recently been corresponding with a well-known recreational mathematician who has written about this famous puzzle and we both agree that something should be done.

My problem is this: We know how to fix the page; but I do not want to hurt the feelings of this very active editor who has buried my original page in an avalanche of mathematical exposition. His math is correct and would make a great research paper. But it does not belong in WP.

What do you advise I do?-- Toploftical ( talk) 19:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@ Toploftical: I suggest you create a post on the article's talk page about your concern, and invite the other editor to join the conversation. Happy editing! GoingBatty ( talk) 21:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

TheChronium

How can i contact user TheChronium? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mina Melikova ( talkcontribs) 21:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@ Mina Melikova: You could post on User talk:TheChronium. GoingBatty ( talk) 21:33, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Amejiogbe Town History in Oyo Town

Amejiogbe is a town located in Atiba local government area in Oyo. It was the first town to be created in Agunpopo Area when the oyo town was created and the road connected to the place from Alaafin palace was created by amejiogbe people and there was no existing road before it was created and there was no town around this place because it was deep forest. According to history he was one consulted Oracle for Alaafin then because his was powerful man. This amejiogbe people came to Oyo with Alaafin and because his was so powerful and his adi ifa Oba, he has to far away to the king palace base on the tradition. The place was name when they are coming and settled down in Oyo when the leader ask ifa where to settle down and ifa told them that when get to a place they will see a tree seated on the rock and the name of the tree is owa tree (Igi Owa) and this is where they will settled. They continue their journey until they get to where amejiogbe town is today and the term amuejiogbe that is the Oracle result and name of the area come to play. There is saying that the owa tree was the same owa tree where they migrated from. According to them they migrated from owa town in ilesha ijesha in osun state and this same tree were also found where they come from. In history, most yoruba people migrated from a particular place and settle on their new home, some consulted ifa before conclusion are met. And whatever ifa said they follows the same suit..... Continue

— Preceding 
unsigned comment added by 
41.190.30.157 (
talk) 23:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC) 
Hi there! You didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how to help you. If you have an idea on how to improve an article, you can be bold and edit the article (e.g. Atiba), or ask for assistance from other editors at the article's talk page (e.g. Talk:Atiba). Be sure you provide a published reliable source for your suggestion. Happy editing! GoingBatty ( talk) 23:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


March 1 Information

Berowra FC

As a member of the committee I have tried 2x Now to create Berowra FC on wikipedia. I am not very Tech Savvy and doing my best, wikicommons keeps deleting our logo which we have rights to and permitting Wikipedia to use and Wikipedia keep deleting our page even after referencing links etc.

Why is this such a difficult task to get a page up and can someone help guide me in the right direction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wittty ( talkcontribs) 00:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@ Wittty: This is the Help desk for the English Wikipedia, and you're asking a question about Commons - presumable about previous attempts to upload commons:File:Berowra FC Official Logo.png. Note that commons:Commons:Licensing states that if you upload the logo there, you're stating that republication, distribution, publication of derivative work, and commercial use of the work must be allowed. Does your club really want anyone to be able to legally be able to use the logo to sell T-shirts and other merchandise? For more info, see commons:Commons:Help desk.
Normally I'd say that you would be better off uploading the image to Wikipedia under a more limited fair use license, except the Berowra FC article was deleted because it did not meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability" - specifically the general notability guideline. I know this isn't the answer you're looking for, but I hope this helps! GoingBatty ( talk) 00:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
What they said, but also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berowra FC, where the reasons for deletion are discussed. It would've been nice if commenters there had bothered to link the relvant policies instead of just throwing aroundjargon, they refer to WP:GNG, which is a general guideline for all article, and WP:NFOOTY which is a specialized guideline for football players. Generally only fully professional football clubs are notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Beeblebrox ( talk) 03:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Files

Should free files be uploaded to Wikipedia or Commons? Most pages say Commons. Although I cannot remember the name of this page, I do remember a page that said “Free files may be uploaded to either wiki, though doing so lacks the advantage of Commons.” So, uploading to which site would be appropriate in what circumstances? 54nd60x ( talk) 06:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Files should be uploaded to Commons in most cases, it is an image repository after all. The only case where you must upload a file locally to the English Wikipedia is when the file is free in the US, but not in the source country, this may be due to the threshold of originality, freedom of panorama or expiry of its copyright protection. Dylsss( talk contribs) 10:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
That answers 54nd60x's question specifically, Dylsss, since it was only about free files, but I am concerned that it nevertheless leaves a partial answer here for others to read. The other case where files should be uploaded to Wikipedia rather than to Commons is when they are not free, but their use in a Wikipedia article meets all the strict criteria in NFCC. -- ColinFine ( talk) 12:24, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Using Medium.com as a reference

Is it safe to use Medium.com to cite article when it's written by a reputable person/group/company? Ominae ( talk) 06:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

See WP:SELFPUB. Yes, if the authors are experts in the subject matter, but not if the material regards living people. Urve ( talk) 06:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC) Small edit. Urve ( talk) 06:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Just wanted to be sure. Saw an article from the site that's used as a reference here, but the writer/company in charge of the article is known. Ominae ( talk) 06:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Multiple images in infoboxes

Do infoboxes (e.g. Template:Infobox military conflict) allow the use of Template:Multiple image instead of a single image? (Under what conditions?) -- KnightMove ( talk) 07:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps infobox can also display multiple images.-- SilverMatsu ( talk) 13:44, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Example conflict
Yellow cartouche
Red cartouche
Players are cautioned with a yellow card and sent off with a red card.
Location
The help desk
@ KnightMove: This should be OK. Template:Infobox military conflict uses Module:Infobox military conflict for all its decisions, which in turn passes the image parameters to Module:InfoboxImage. Line 170 of that module tests for an image beginning with {{ and assumes that the image parameter is a template call that needs no further processing. Here I've adapted one of the examples from {{ Multiple image}}, increasing the width a bit and adding |align=center. -- John of Reading ( talk) 15:38, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Reliable sources?

Dear editors, I want to include the full discography list of an artist to the article, however, the only sources are Spotify and YouTube. Is it possible to include them or we need other sources for that? Sincerely, Գարիկ Ավագյան ( talk) 09:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@ Գարիկ Ավագյան: We don't often see musician's articles with unsourced music, because the lack of coverage suggests the music and by extension the musician him or herself doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. But this might help you find sources Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Resources. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:40, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

My DYK nomination

I recently posted a DYK nomination ( Template:Did you know nominations/Domus Litonii) at Template talk:Did you know. Did I do this correctly? Is there something I need to do or should I just wait now? JIP | Talk 09:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

JIP It's visible at Template talk:Did you know so I think yep, wait and see, the Good DYK:ers will turn up sooner or later. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Russian Chronos Encyclopedia

Hi Folks!! I posted a RFC up at the reliable sources noticeboard, about a week ago, but nobody has replied. Are there any Russian experts available that can perhaps take a look at it and form a view on it. Thanks. scope_creep Talk 15:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link:  Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Chronos Encyclopeadia TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Scope creep: Have you considered posting a request on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia? GoingBatty ( talk) 00:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@ GoingBatty: No, but I do now. I never knew it existed. Thanks. Thanks Tim. scope_creep Talk 11:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

dead links wikipedia generated

was working on adding a picture to a page and it gave me this:

"We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons."

with 2 links: http://webot.org/info/en/?search=Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Licensing and: http://webot.org/info/en/?search=Special:MyLanguage/Commons:First_steps

clicking either of them takes me to: http://webot.org/info/en/?search=Main_Page

Daggerfella ( talk) 15:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Why do both of those have en.wikipedia.org URLs instead of commons.wikimedia.org ones? — A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 15:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Template:Darkgreen Thats the exact problem of this question. The should occur either on WP:FUW or Special:Upload when uploading to commons. Obviviously an error message uses internal links (which go to whichever domain they are on) rather than external links. This issue likely needs to be corrected at commons by a commons admin that can edit the error messages by the edit filters. Victor Schmidt ( talk) 15:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Those should be interwikilinks [[:Commons:Licensing]] and [[:Commons:First steps]], which display as Commons:Licensing and Commons:First steps respectively, c Daggerfella. But you are using Special:MyLanguage: Help:SpecialPages says of this "When an interwiki Page or an invalid page name is entered after the slash, this page redirects to Main page. So this is documented behaviour, even if it is not really desirable. Are you using some add-on that automatically uses MyLanguage? If so, you need to turn it off to get to those links. I've never heard of Special:MyLanguage before, so I don't know anything more than what I've just read. If you want to pursue this further, WP:VPT is probably the best place. -- ColinFine ( talk) 15:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

only addons I have is a DuckDuckGo privacy anti tracker, adblocker ultimate and adblocker for youtube (all for security and privacy reasons). seems the adblocker ultimate has a language filter. let me disable it and restart my browser Daggerfella ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

seems to work now, thanks dude :D Daggerfella ( talk) 16:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Name Change to Page Title

Hello,

On the Wikipedia Page for Our Lady of Mercy High School (New York), the title of the page is incorrect. In 2012, the name of the school was changed to "Our Lady of Mercy School for Young Women." While it's corrected in the body of the page, we'd like the page name/title to reflect the correct name of the school. What is the best way to request/make this change?

Thanks!

Ktsmith3 ( talk) 15:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Request a page move on the article's talk page. Presuming it's not contentious, the move should happen within the week. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 15:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Ktsmith3 (edit conflict) Changing an article title requires a page move; you may request a page move at Requested Moves. Please note that Wikipedia articles are not necessarily titled with the official or legal name of a subject( Bill Clinton, not William Jefferson Clinton which is a redirect), but with what independent reliable sources primarily use, if it differs from the official name. See WP:COMMONNAME for more information. 331dot ( talk) 15:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Ktsmith3: I've gone ahead and moved it. Hits seem about equally divided between the old and the new, but the best official source I could find has the new title. [2] Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Removal of run suggestion from runs in Search page.

From the Search page (not the search in the upper right), I have noticed a change in behavior. Before, if I was searching for a mispelling like "fraernity" (in just mainspace), and there were no hits it would simply return that there were no hits, now, it does a search for a suggestion, so it returns the search for "fraternity" and gives me a google like message of "Showing results for fraternity. No results found for fraernity." and allows me to click on fraerniy to do the search with runsuggestion=0. Is there any want to change my preferences so that this does not occur? I'm not interested in changing what searches do when done in the upper right of all pages. Naraht ( talk) 16:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Google makes a suggested search if there are few hits. MediaWiki only does it if there are no hits so there isn't much point in clicking the searched term. See Special:Search/sprell for an example with a single hit. It suggests "spell" but shows the result for "sprell". I don't know a way to omit the suggested search if there are no hits. PrimeHunter ( talk) 20:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

TetraVex

Why was this page deleted? Was there consensus among Microsoft employees to sabotage it? The useful content was not salvaged and entirely disappeared from this site. I wound up on German Wikipedia just to understand how the game works. Totally wrong move. DAVilla ( talk) 18:44, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

See comments at [3]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 20:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
( edit conflict)Hello, DAVilla. If you can point to several independent reliable sources giving significant coverage to the game, and so establish that it now meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (not somebody else's criteria), then you can open a discussion on Talk:TetraVex to try and persuade other editors that it should be restored. The version you restored had at most one such reference (if the Information Processing Letters paper met those criteria: I haven't read it). In my opinion the discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/TetraVex back in 2008 should have been resolved as Delete, because not one of the Keep !votes there adduced a single source to support their assertion that it was notable. As for your absurd claim about Microsoft employees, please always assume good faith. -- ColinFine ( talk) 20:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
OK thanks. There might not be much persuasion needed given the AFD discussion, just sources.
On the last point, that was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek. It is instructive tho, that being part of a Microsoft release, a history that for the most part will be rightly ignored and forgotten in coming decades, makes a topic noteworthy in some people's minds, while being a studied mathematical puzzle, which will always exist throughout the millennia, gets passing mention. DAVilla ( talk) 22:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
If you have the sources, it won't take much persuasion. If you haven't, then no amount of persuasion will do. "Notable" is in some ways an unfortunate word for Wikipedia to have chosen, because people assume, reasonably, that it means something different from what it means here. It doesn't have anything directly to do with any of: famous, important, popular, significant, influential, ground-breaking, shocking, outstanding, or viral; though often some of those will cause a topic to become Wikipedia-notable. It is almost entirely a matter of, "Has there been enough independent material published to ground an article?" - remembering that unpublished material, and material published in unreliable places, cannot be cited at all, and that Wikipedia is basically not interested in what the subject or their associates say or want to say. -- ColinFine ( talk) 23:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
OK I've done my best on talk. I still contend that there's significance to this being an NP-hard problem rather than just one of several games included in a Microsoft distribution, sans mention of anything else. But I guess the fate of that depends on whether academic papers which may not have been peer reviewed carry as much weight as an official user manual no one will care about anyway when the system is obsolete. DAVilla ( talk) 01:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


March 2 Information

figure in Wikipedia entry incorrect

Hi. I was looking at the entry on "Xanthohumol" ( http://webot.org/info/en/?search=Xanthohumol) and noted that there was an error in the figure. The compound annotated as L-phenylalanine is incorrectly drawn. I cannot change it because it is a jpg. If the original chemdraw file was available I could fix it but I would need to have the original file. Otherwise I have to draw the whole figure from scratch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.193.154.233 ( talk) 00:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I suggest you post your concern on the article's talk page: Talk:Xanthohumol. Hopefully someone there would be able to assist with the image. Happy editing! GoingBatty ( talk) 00:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
You're clearly right – the amino group of the phenylalanine is attached to the wrong carbon. I'll have a go at editing the jpg, probably later today, unless someone else does it first. Maproom ( talk) 07:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I cannot find my article in my sandbox

Hello, I am a new user to Wikipedia, so I apologize if this is the incorrect place to post my problem.

I was working on an article in my sandbox—the URL is: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:UQadri81713/sandbox/Mohammad_Afzal_Husain_Qadri&action=edit&preload=Template%3AArticle+wizard%2Fuserpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia%3AArticle+wizard%2FWizard-New+edit+instructions+userdraft

I don't know what happened. I changed the initial bold name in the paragraph where you are supposed to type from "Mohammad" to "Mohammed" and now I can't seem to find the article. The URL now opens a blank article, and I can't find the article that I have been working on for the past few weeks. Please help. Thank you!


UQadri81713 ( talk) 00:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ UQadri81713: Your account was created five days ago and this post is the only edit you have saved. No page has been saved at User:UQadri81713/sandbox/Mohammad Afzal Husain Qadri. Were you logged in to another account or not logged in when you worked on a page? PrimeHunter ( talk) 00:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
That's what's so strange. I don't understand why it's vanished, because I was always logged in when I was working on it—even when I'd refresh the page it would load up with all of my previous edits. It's as if it was deleted entirely/there was no record of it at all.

UQadri81713 ( talk) 13:37, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ UQadri81713: Maybe your browser stored it but there is no sign you ever saved anything in Wikipedia. You have to press "Publish" to save a draft, also before submitting it for review. The "Publish" name can be confusing. It only means that others can see it if they come by the page. You cannot save a private draft which is invisible to others. PrimeHunter ( talk) 13:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Oh okay. So yeah I didn't press the "publish" because I thought that would submit it or something, and it would have to be complete first. Thank you for explaining.

UQadri81713 ( talk) 14:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Anti-Sami racism by a user named @WikiDan61

FYI – Restoring edits made by RudolfRed per WP:TPO. If this is a conduct issue, please bring this to the WP:ANI after notifying the user in question. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 01:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Extended content

Hello,

Today, I attempted to correct a massive amount of misinformation about my ethnic group, the Saami.

Now, I am Sami. I talk to Sami regularly. I follow Sami history. I follow the university. I follow the books published with the single Sami university in the world.

Sami traditionally have an oral history and over the past thousands of years, many people have written what they think "Sami life" is. This has lead to thousands of years of misinformation.

Lapp (which I will refer to as the L-word or L*pp from here.) comes from the Swedish word Patches. Calling us the word is calling us "patch people." calling our land the word is calling our land "Patchland." That Is incredibly offensive. Calling me L*pp is calling me a Ni**er. Calling my land L*ppland is calling Africa Ni**er land. This is not a joke. This is not up for debate. I talked to some of my Sami friends and they wrote pages of anger about this.

So, I removed every reference to the L-word except where it was completely necessary and fixed a considerable amount of the misinformation. I argue with people regularly about the Sami and they quote me this incredibly inaccurate wikipedia page like it is Gospel. This Wikipedia page actively hurts me and my community, the people that it is supposed to represent. It needs to change. It can not stay like this. This is an article about Africans that just calls them Ni**er 15 times. Is that OK? It is full of regularly regurgitated state sanctioned propaganda and if you did any real research you would come to this conclusion. Is this OK?

" I will grant that you are free to be offended by it. " - wikidan. I will not grant that this is OK. I will not grant that it is OK when someone changes Ni**er to african to change it back.

So, I spent nearly two hours editing this page and then Immediately "@wikidan61" reverted my comments saying they are a point of view. He told me that what I said is inaccurate.

"These are serious accusations, and require serious sources to back them up. Please recall that Wikipedia is not a place to right great wrongs." - wikidan. When the great wrong is caused by the Wikipedia page, you bet your f*cking ass this is the place to "right it."

Now, let me get some f*cking things straight.

The Sami were the targets of genocide in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia.

We were forcibly sterilized.

We were stolen from our homes.

We were murdered for wearing our traditional clothing.

Our languages were banned. Our singing was banned.

We were told we were ethnically inferior.

You want to know the extent of this genocide? In the last 100 years, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia have sterilized more of us than they currently acknowledge to exist.

So, I tell him about the genocide and everything else and he says they are "a point of view." The king of Norway apologized for hundreds of years of subjugation and abuse and this person tells me it's all a "point of view"? No. Is he better than the King of Norway? Does he know more than the king of the f*cking country? That is unacceptable. He tells me the burden of proof is on me. False. He corrected me, the burden is on him. However, because these are my people and someone needs to fight for them I took the time to find and read through 14 sources to show this person how wrong they are.

I don't know if your family has been hunted down and murdered for the past several thousand years, but, mine have. It hurts me to read about. I have read these all before and because of this persons selfish ignorance I have to do it again.

This is his response.

"See, now you're starting to produce reliable sources. I don't have sources because I'm not the one who wants to change the page. The burden of proof is on you to provide sources for the changes you'd like to make. Forgive me for not be versed in the history of the Sami people. I do think your anger over the issue might well yet cloud your neutrality, but with reliable sources to work from, we can sort that out."

Did he apologize for the incredibly insensitive remarks he made? No. He asks me to forgive him for not "knowing the Sami history." Yeah, I can tell he didn't know literally anything. Why then, did he remove my comments about my history?

Who is this person who thinks its OK to silence the indigenous about their genocide, then, not even apologize? I asked him several times to apologize for his remarks and attitude and he never even remotely acknowledged anything.

This is absolutely unacceptable. This persons actions are unacceptable. I am going to go through all the Sami-related wiki's I can find and correct the Racism and correct the Propaganda.

I need an explanation. I need to be told how my neutrality is compromised by my emotions. I need you to explain how my emotions invalidate the 14 sources I supplied and the fact that these are my people. This is my history. These are my ancestors who were murdered. Who is this person, who self admittedly knows nothing about my history going to correct me?

Now, here is some writing by other Sami I talked to today. I will censor the swearing.

"This really makes me furious. It's not a f*cking opinion that the Swedish state, together with the Swedish church for several hundred years conducted acts with intent to destroy or radically change Sámi culture and way of living. It's absolutely ridiculous that this bloke who's indigenous experience is probably next to none is trying to describe a situation he has no business in retelling to an indigenous person. If you'd want to I could give you some sources, one straight from the Church of Sweden detailing the religious and cultural genocide of Sámis in Sweden, but the sources are in Swedish. I don't know if that would help at all, but as a Sámi trying to become a historian I felt like this hit really close to home."

"$10 says he is from the US, per his Minneapolis Mayor expertise, and so is ignorant to the plight of minorities in other countries outside of his own. A bit of a troll who likes to be right all the time and uses psychological fallacies to try and sound smart/have the upper hand in a conversation."

Honestly, this person should be fired. They don't have to but something needs to happen here. This situation and the actions of this person are unacceptable.

If this person is not fired, I want a written letter apologizing for his actions and how he represented Wikipedia so I can give it to my community members. I want a free hand to remove the propaganda and racism from your website.

The Scandinavian governments acknowledge this, but you don't? Are you better than whole countries? Do you know more about the indigenous in a country than the indigenous do? Than the government oppressing them do? The arrogance is astounding.

Extended content

I need someone to talk to. This is unacceptable. If this is not the place to complain and see action about completely inappropriate behavior be mods, where is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsSaminotLapp ( talkcontribs) 00:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ ItsSaminotLapp: The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page. RudolfRed ( talk) 00:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

What does this have to do with the article? One of your mods is a genocide denier and didn't even apologize for it. That is what this is about. If you honestly think differently you're racist.

Read this again, it's about the mods actions and attitude. Not the article. I am not here to debade genocide I am here telling you that your mod denied genocide and then when proven wrong did not even apologize. That is what this is about.

Today, I attempted to correct a massive amount of misinformation about my ethnic group, the Saami.

Now, I am Sami. I talk to Sami regularly. I follow Sami history. I follow the university. I follow the books published with the single Sami university in the world.

Sami traditionally have an oral history and over the past thousands of years, many people have written what they think "Sami life" is. This has lead to thousands of years of misinformation.

Lapp (which I will refer to as the L-word or L*pp from here.) comes from the Swedish word Patches. Calling us the word is calling us "patch people." calling our land the word is calling our land "Patchland." That Is incredibly offensive. Calling me L*pp is calling me a Ni**er. Calling my land L*ppland is calling Africa Ni**er land. This is not a joke. This is not up for debate. I talked to some of my Sami friends and they wrote pages of anger about this.

So, I removed every reference to the L-word except where it was completely necessary and fixed a considerable amount of the misinformation. I argue with people regularly about the Sami and they quote me this incredibly inaccurate wikipedia page like it is Gospel. This Wikipedia page actively hurts me and my community, the people that it is supposed to represent. It needs to change. It can not stay like this. This is an article about Africans that just calls them Ni**er 15 times. Is that OK? It is full of regularly regurgitated state sanctioned propaganda and if you did any real research you would come to this conclusion. Is this OK?

" I will grant that you are free to be offended by it. " - wikidan. I will not grant that this is OK. I will not grant that it is OK when someone changes Ni**er to african to change it back.

So, I spent nearly two hours editing this page and then Immediately "@wikidan61" reverted my comments saying they are a point of view. He told me that what I said is inaccurate.

"These are serious accusations, and require serious sources to back them up. Please recall that Wikipedia is not a place to right great wrongs." - wikidan. When the great wrong is caused by the Wikipedia page, you bet your f*cking ass this is the place to "right it."

Now, let me get some f*cking things straight.

The Sami were the targets of genocide in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia.

We were forcibly sterilized.

We were stolen from our homes.

We were murdered for wearing our traditional clothing.

Our languages were banned. Our singing was banned.

We were told we were ethnically inferior.

You want to know the extent of this genocide? In the last 100 years, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia have sterilized more of us than they currently acknowledge to exist.

So, I tell him about the genocide and everything else and he says they are "a point of view." The king of Norway apologized for hundreds of years of subjugation and abuse and this person tells me it's all a "point of view"? No. Is he better than the King of Norway? Does he know more than the king of the f*cking country? That is unacceptable. He tells me the burden of proof is on me. False. He corrected me, the burden is on him. However, because these are my people and someone needs to fight for them I took the time to find and read through 14 sources to show this person how wrong they are.

I don't know if your family has been hunted down and murdered for the past several thousand years, but, mine have. It hurts me to read about. I have read these all before and because of this persons selfish ignorance I have to do it again.

This is his response.

"See, now you're starting to produce reliable sources. I don't have sources because I'm not the one who wants to change the page. The burden of proof is on you to provide sources for the changes you'd like to make. Forgive me for not be versed in the history of the Sami people. I do think your anger over the issue might well yet cloud your neutrality, but with reliable sources to work from, we can sort that out."

Did he apologize for the incredibly insensitive remarks he made? No. He asks me to forgive him for not "knowing the Sami history." Yeah, I can tell he didn't know literally anything. Why then, did he remove my comments about my history?

Who is this person who thinks its OK to silence the indigenous about their genocide, then, not even apologize? I asked him several times to apologize for his remarks and attitude and he never even remotely acknowledged anything.

This is absolutely unacceptable. This persons actions are unacceptable. I am going to go through all the Sami-related wiki's I can find and correct the Racism and correct the Propaganda.

I need an explanation. I need to be told how my neutrality is compromised by my emotions. I need you to explain how my emotions invalidate the 14 sources I supplied and the fact that these are my people. This is my history. These are my ancestors who were murdered. Who is this person, who self admittedly knows nothing about my history going to correct me?

Now, here is some writing by other Sami I talked to today. I will censor the swearing.

"This really makes me furious. It's not a f*cking opinion that the Swedish state, together with the Swedish church for several hundred years conducted acts with intent to destroy or radically change Sámi culture and way of living. It's absolutely ridiculous that this bloke who's indigenous experience is probably next to none is trying to describe a situation he has no business in retelling to an indigenous person. If you'd want to I could give you some sources, one straight from the Church of Sweden detailing the religious and cultural genocide of Sámis in Sweden, but the sources are in Swedish. I don't know if that would help at all, but as a Sámi trying to become a historian I felt like this hit really close to home."

"$10 says he is from the US, per his Minneapolis Mayor expertise, and so is ignorant to the plight of minorities in other countries outside of his own. A bit of a troll who likes to be right all the time and uses psychological fallacies to try and sound smart/have the upper hand in a conversation."

Honestly, this person should be fired. They don't have to but something needs to happen here. This situation and the actions of this person are unacceptable.

If this person is not fired, I want a written letter apologizing for his actions and how he represented Wikipedia so I can give it to my community members. I want a free hand to remove the propaganda and racism from your website.

The Scandinavian governments acknowledge this, but you don't? Are you better than whole countries? Do you know more about the indigenous in a country than the indigenous do? Than the government oppressing them do? The arrogance is astounding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsSaminotLapp ( talkcontribs) 01:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ ItsSaminotLapp: Per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, you can discuss the improvements you want to make on Talk:Sámi people - in a constructive and civil manner, while providing reliable sources. We're all volunteers like you, so we can't be fired. You could post at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, but be aware that administrators will also comment on your behavior. Happy editing! GoingBatty ( talk) 01:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
ItsSaminotLapp, here are the things that are useful for changing content on Wikpedia: Calm, well-reasoned discussion on the article talk page, based on detailed discussion of reliable sources, and an understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Assuming good faith of your fellow editors. Not repeating yourself over and over. Here are the things that are counterproductive: Rage. Hostility. Accusing editors of racism without rock solid proof. Advocacy writing. Saying that someone is a "mod" when they aren't and saying they are an employee who should be fired when the person is a volunteer who can't bw fired. Acting like a bull in a china shop. You need to stop those counterproductive behaviors now. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ RudolfRed: So are you just, OK with genocide denial? You don't think that's a problem? You are OK calling black men "Ni**er" and Africa "Ni**er Land?"

You don't even think they should apologize?

@ Cullen328:

So are you just, OK with genocide denial? You don't think that's a problem? You are OK calling black men "Ni**er" and Africa "Ni**er Land?"

You don't even think they should apologize?

Are you going to ban me for getting upset at genocide denial? Are you going to silence the indigenous person for speaking up about the hundreds of years of subjugation and abuse?

ItsSaminotLapp This is not the forum to speak up about or correct centuries of racism and genocide. Please see right great wrongs. Racism will not be solved here on Wikipedia nor is this the place to seek racial justice. If you are here to do that, instead of collaborating with others to work towards a consensus as to how an article should summarize reliable sources, you are going to have a tough time here. Anything else, you will need to do elsewhere. 331dot ( talk) 01:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

See, @ Cullen328:

This is where you are wrong. I am not trying to "correct a great wrong." I am trying to bring the Wikipedia page about my people out of the 1980s. The King of Norway apologized in the 90's and I can't write that? He wrote the great wrong, I'm just trying to correct the misinformation in the article.

Should this person not apologize for denying the genocide of my people? Everyone keeps ignoring that. It is really starting to feel like you all want to spin me around with words, all I want is an apology for objectively harmful things this person said. This is public. If you deny genocide publicly, you should apologize publicly.

ItsSaminotLapp, no I am not saying any of those things in any way, shape or form. I am not commenting on the content dispute because I am acting as an administrator rather than a content editor. You may be correct about the content but your hyperbolic rhetoric is disruptive. If you take my advice, then all will be well. If you ignore my advice and continue with disruptive editing, you will be blocked. It is that simple and the choice is yours. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry, @ Cullen328:, are you saying that me asking for an apology is "disruptive editing"?

" no I am not saying any of those things in any way" OK, then it should be easy to get an apology, right?

ItsSaminotLapp, asking for an apology in itself is not disruptive. Ranting and raving repetitively in rage, accusing another human being of being a racist without solid evidence and calling for them to be fired is disruptive, and that behavior must stop. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
(edit conflict) You can contribute information that you have independent reliable sources for, in a collaborative, civil manner without engaging in name calling and accusations. Calling people racists and genocide deniers is not civil. We aren't here to judge genocide, but tell about what reliable sources say. Note that Wikipedia articles are not censored for any reason, and a bad word should not be removed just because it is viewed as offensive. We have articles on nigger and the c-word. I'm sorry for what you state has happened to your people. 331dot ( talk) 01:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ Cullen328:

"We have articles on Ni**er and c*nt." The wikipedia article is about how bad the N-word is, not an article describing the history of african people using only the N-word. You have to recognize the difference between these two situations.

Even then, as you yourself stated, even if you have articles on these things, the behaviors I have identified are not OK. "In any way"

So can I get an apology? I don't see what is so hard about this. You recognize the behaviors are not ok "In any way" and yet you dance around this question every single time.

Are there articles that deny genocide even with proof of genocide? Because I think that is something that if publicly denied needs to be publicly apologized for.

You have articles on the Armenian genocide, an unrecognized genocide, if that is not an attempt to fix a "great wrong" what is?

I'm not Cullen328. Pings do not work unless you sign your post with four tildes, ~~~~. You are working against yourself with your behavior here. Are you going to proceed as you have been asked to, or not? 331dot ( talk) 02:10, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  • After their last post to WikiDan, I have issued a not here block. 331dot ( talk) 02:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Regardless of the OP's conduct, I gave a look at the articles. Sámi_people#Lapp seems (from a non-expert perspective) reasonably written (maybe the sources were cherry-picked, I cannot tell, but the article seems to accurately represent the content of the sources). I added "controversial" in the description of the DAB entry at Lapp, which is not a great term but "offensive" or "derogatory" would be taking sides. Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK problem

Could someone fix Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Sweeny? It says not to edit it if you don't know what you're doing, and I don't. Clarityfiend ( talk) 01:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Mandarax. Clarityfiend ( talk) 05:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Archive bot question

I set up archiving on Talk:Thomas Aquinas and Talk:Ibn Khaldun (the former I had just updated the current bot which had a faulty parameter), but neither seem to be working. Any help would be appreciated. Aza24 ( talk) 03:17, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ Aza24: Although the archiving task was taken over by lowercase sigmabot III ( talk · contribs), the instruction block that it looks for still uses the old name User:MiszaBot/config. -- John of Reading ( talk) 08:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
That explains it, thanks! Aza24 ( talk) 08:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Uploading audio files

The article "Singing bird box" asks for examples of bird songs to be uploaded. I have a recording of a 19th Century Bontems to contribute. However, mp3 files are not uploadable. Now what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmlouisb ( talkcontribs) 07:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Drmlouisb, Wikipedia uses the Ogg Vorbis, FLAC and WAV format for audio (see WP:AUDIO), a quick search in Google gave me several Online Convert for converting MP3 to Ogg Vorbis. CommanderWaterford ( talk) 12:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Drmlouisb: It is unlikely(!) that you personally made an MP3 recording in the 19th century. What is the provenance of this recording? We can almost certainly assert that the original is in the public domain. When you convert from MP3 to Ogg Vorbis, make sure you just get the audio of the birdsong itself and not any added material that may be under copyright. - Arch dude ( talk) 15:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks - I will convert it. The recording is of my own machine. Drmlouisb ( talk) 22:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Dairy product companies of Australia

Hello, I'm a licensed dairy manufacturer based in Croydon North, Victoria, Australia. Would you tell me how to get listed under Dairy product companies of Australia please ?

Thank You

Jimmy Dioguardi YUCK Ice cream FOOD (redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.136.111.1 ( talk) 07:25, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I've redacted your contact information; it should not be published in this public forum for your protection. To merit inclusion in that article, there must be an article about your company. Wikipedia is not a database of companies, it is an encyclopedia with article about subjects, in this case, companies, which are shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Ideally you should not be the one to write about your company due to your conflict of interest(please review). Wikipedia is interested in what others might say about your company, not what it wants to say about itself. 331dot ( talk) 09:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

A new article

Hello, I just published a new article and i wanted to ask, how can i know if the article was published thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shani maximov 92 ( talkcontribs) 08:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy links: User:Shani maximov 92 & User talk:Shani maximov 92.

Hi, Shani maximov 92! I'm afraid this is not a good way to publish an article in Wikipedia. Have you seen WP:Your First Article?
Apart from learning the proper way of creating articles, you need to know necessary requirements for the article to become a part of Wikipedia. The most important is a WP:Notability of the subject, which is estabilished mainly by numerous and deep enough WP:Reliable Sources writing about the subject, so that the article is WP:Verifiable. Once you make sure you fulfill these conditions, you also need to keep the article in a WP:Neutral point of view so it does not appear like advertising (Wikipedia is not a place for promotion). -- CiaPan ( talk) 09:17, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Shani maximov 92 (ec) You wrote on your user page, which is not article space, but a place for you to tell about yourself as a Wikipedia editor or user. What you wrote there is "published" in that it can be viewed by others, but if by "published" you mean it is formally part of the encyclopedia, no, it is not. If you were to submit it as such, it would be rejected quickly, as your text is only sourced to IMDB, which is not acceptable as a source as it is user-editable. A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Please see Your First Article; you may also create and submit a draft at Articles for Creation. As a new user you cannot yet directly create articles, but even if you could, it's a great idea to get others to see what you write before it is part of the encyclopedia. 331dot ( talk) 09:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Did I use ref tag perfectly here?

In last of mine, I didn't use ref tag properly, but what about now? Rizosome ( talk) 10:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ Rizosome: Yes, it looks right to me. A full stop seemed to have crept in after the preceding reference and one was missing at the end of the sentence you added. Films and TV series should be in italics. Eagleash ( talk) 10:45, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

False Account Opened in My Name

I have received a message from Wikipedia stating that an account joshuajmarklover was opened on Wikipedia on 1 March 7:38 pm. I did not open this account. I received another message at the same time stating the new account had been changed to this email: [redacted] I do not know this person. I do have a Wikipedia account and I contribute to Wikipedia but my account has nothing to do with these. Wikipedia obviously has my email because I received these messages. Any help in removing this false account is appreciated. joshuajmarklover is a false account and this [redacted] person should be contacted regarding the situation. - Joshua Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.43.74 ( talk) 15:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Joshua Mark is not a rare name and we have 41 million accounts. It sounds like the user created an account stating your email address and later changed the address at Special:Preferences. Maybe they accidentally gave a wrong address and fixed their error. If your secret email address is something like joshuamark at a big email provider then it could certainly happen. But maybe they are trying to guess your email address by setting an address in their own account and wait to see whether you react to mysterious emails, so I'm not contacting them for now. I have hidden their private information from your post. If it was an innocent mistake then the info should not be published. Other users can only see your email address if you mail them. PrimeHunter ( talk) 16:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Restoring a deleted image?

I am touching up the article on Strategic Conquest and saw that there is a deleted screenshot. The screenshot was uploaded around the time of the debate on free use, and the user died shortly thereafter. Unable to respond to various bots, the image was summarily deleted without, as far as I can tell, any attempt to save it.

Is there any way to get this back? It's a perfectly reasonable Free Use example of a game screenshot. I tried to restore it, but either I'm doing something wrong or its not working. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 17:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

What was the name of the image? Ruslik_ Zero 19:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Strategic Conquest (screenshot).jpg Maury Markowitz ( talk) 20:13, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Rotate a table?

Are there any tools to handle table creation and editing? There is a table in Strategic Conquest that should be rotated, that is, switched in terms of columns and rows. Doing it manually would be a chore. Maury Markowitz ( talk) 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ Maury Markowitz: I have never done this, so this is a theoretical answer. You can get your table in HTML simply by displaying the page in your browser. You can convert an HTML table to a CSV file using any of several (non wiki) tools: google for them. You can load a CSV file into any spreadsheet program. You can rotate and do just about anything else in the spreadsheet program. You export from the spreadsheet to CSV. Finally, you can import a CSV file into wikitext using Wikipedia:CSVLoader.

LL Cool J's page edits

Hi, my name is Robert Raymond Lee III. I was signed to LL Cool J'a Rock the Bells record label under the name "Pragmatic". I would like to be included in his "other ventures" category with the other artists from that label. I have emailed this information to your editor's address. Included in the email is the actual contract, signed by myself and LL Cool J aka James Todd Smith. I would like for history to be told accurately.

Thank You, Robert Raymond Lee III — Preceding unsigned comment added by RLee84 ( talkcontribs) 19:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, but we can't list everyone who signs with his label. The names listed in his article either have an article or are at least credited in Deep Blue Sea (soundtrack). Clarityfiend ( talk) 19:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
RLee84 I'm not sure who you emailed, as articles do not usually have a single editor. This is a collaborative, group project. What Clarityfriend states is correct. Wikipedia is not meant as a comprehensive database of all possible information; this is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent reliable sources state about notable topics as defined by Wikipedia. 331dot ( talk) 19:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Creating an account

Why is it so difficult to create an account on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.112.105.100 ( talk) 20:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

[moved from the top of the page]
What difficulty have you experienced? -- Hoary ( talk) 02:33, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Creating Template Default

I'm trying to modify an existing template (namely Template:Maplink-road) to expand from just being a prefilled version of another template (namely Template:Maplink) to being one that operates almost exactly as the original, just with default parameters that can be overriden. The idea for the Maplink-road template is wonderful, but it would be useful to be able to add parameters to its call of the Maplink template to avoid having redundancies from calling Maplink directly. For example, on the article Pennsylvania Route 5, much of the code in the Maplink template is redundant to the Maplink-road template, so it would be much simpler to be able to call {{maplink-road|type2=line|from2=Pennsylvania Route 5 Alternate.map}}. Could someone link to some documentation that I could read so I can make this happen? Thanks much! BMACS1002 ( talk) 21:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@ BMACS1002: See Help:Template#Handling parameters. You can change | frame-width = 290 in {{ Maplink-road}} to | frame-width = {{{frame-width|290}}}, and so on. This will pass on frame-width if it's set in the call and otherwise use 290 as default. Note that a call with a blank value like {{ Maplink-road|frame-width=}} will pass on the blank value and not use the default 290. PrimeHunter ( talk) 22:09, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! That's a good start, but to get to the crux of my question, what about other parameters other than the ones that won't be set with a default? Say if I want to have all the parameters of Maplink-road, but I want to add in another parameter like "stroke-color", "title", "description", "type2" (and all other associated parameters). How would I do that without adding a line like x={{{x}}} for literally every possible parameter? Thanks! BMACS1002 ( talk) 23:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
@ BMACS1002: With template code (as opposed to a module) you do have to pass on every parameter separately. It should be done with x={{{x|}}}. This will give a blank value if x is not set in the call. x={{{x}}} would give the literal 7-character string {{{x}}} as the value of x. PrimeHunter ( talk) 23:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Well, I guess now's the time I dive into Lua to figure stuff out to make this work. Thanks for the help though! BMACS1002 ( talk) 00:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Please help me identify predatory open access journals in a recently created page Cultural agility

Hello, I just noticed a warning to the "use of predatory open access" in a page I recently created: Cultural agility. Could someone help me identify precisely which citations are involved in order to make the necessary changes to remove such links. Thank you.

Hi User:Neuralia (please sign your posts using --~~~~), in order to deal with this sort of thing, User:Headbomb has a good set of tools, such as his Unreliable/Predatory Source Detector (UPSD). You can also check your sources at User:JzG/Predatory, or WP:CITEWATCH, or online at list. (Most of this reply is paraphrased from Headbomb.)
I have the UPSD script installed, and it flags Global Issues and Innovative Solutions in Healthcare, Culture, and the Environment and "Culturally Agile Leadership: A Relational Leadership Development Approach" being from predatory journals or publishers.
In addition it also highlighted "The Development of Cultural Agility (A Literature Review)", since medium.com is considered generally unreliable, being self-published, and usually considered a primary source. It can be used if the authors are experts in the subject matter, but not if the material regards living people. It's preferred to source the same information from somewhere that isn't self-published. It also flagged "In Search of Leadership: Practical Perspectives on Leading Distance Education Organisations" as marginally reliable since it's in a repository that may contain unpublished/predatory materials, though it's probably ok since I didn't see the Asian Journal of Distance Education in Beall's list.
I hope this helps. -- Anon423 ( talk) 01:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Not quite what it highlights. It highlights Zenodo as a general repository, which can host predatory sources and preprints. So for that one, double check what the journal is and if it's reliable. In this case, it's the Asian Journal of Distance Education, which AFAICT, looks like your average academic journal. Medium is highlighted as general unreliable per WP:RSP#Medium, since it's a blog service, and reliable depends very much on how is the writer. The two predatory (doi:10.4018/...) ones are from IGI Global, a well-known vanity press with no meaningful review process. Those aren't fit to be cited. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 01:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

transitioning IP user to registered user

Hi Wiki Team, I have made several small contributions as an IP user, but I had totally forgotten about an account I created in 2010, which I'm now writing under. Is it possible to appropriate my activity as IP user to my account retroactively? Thanks in advance! Ariescode ( talk) 21:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I am not positive, but quite sure, that you cannot. However, if you like, you can put a notice on your talk page that you formerly edited under that IP address. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 21:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I feel like I have seen a template for such a notification, maybe as a userbox? Beeblebrox ( talk) 22:27, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Found something at {{ User IP editor}} but it doesn't appear to have a field to identify what IP you used. Beeblebrox ( talk) 22:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you all Ariescode ( talk) 00:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Amazon copyright issue

This movie advertisement link is from Amazon/IMDb.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWZjNzJiZjQtODE3OC00MmVlLTk1ZjUtOGU1ZTA5ZWIzYjdlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjA5MTAzODY@._V1_.jpg

The movie is Doctor Neighbor completed in 1916. Even though it is an Amazon image, can I upload a copy of the poster to Wikipedia commons claiming the copyright has expired since it was created before 1926?

This is not original art, but a copy of a page from a movie fan magazine. I understand if I find the magazine where the original ad was placed - problem solved, but I having problems locating the Ad.

Thanks

Michael Jannetta ( talk) 22:55, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Michael Jannetta, that's a question not for Wikipedia but for Commons; please ask at commons:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Mtjannetta: Try asking at WP:MCQ, where copyright experts hang out and give advice on things like this. RudolfRed ( talk) 02:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

March 3 Information

Vandalism help request from 2600:1702:7D0:54E0:A823:C57:9C2D:5FBE

I have noticed some vandalism at Quinton Flynn. Namely, an ex girlfriend of this actor keeps attempting to add a tabloid article she wrote accusing him of sexual harassment. Through some research, these allegations were false and have no merit whatsoever, so they definitely don't belong on his Wikipedia page. I understand he's actually in contacts with the platform for a cease and desist to remove their libelous article. In the meantime I'd like help in removing her addition from his pages edit history. Would it also be possible to block this IP address from editing any further on this page?

14:04, 1 March 2021‎ 86.26.102.51 talk‎ 17,331 bytes +112‎ id say this is important to bring up undo Tag: Reverted

Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, 2600:1702:7D0:54E0:A823:C57:9C2D:5FBE ( talk) 00:47, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

You say "keeps attempting", but it's not clear how you are referring to more than one (very incompetent) edit. That edit has already been reverted. It's also odd that you say "an ex girlfriend of this actor keeps attempting to add a tabloid article she wrote", despite (i) not showing how the editor is that person (tip: Don't attempt to do this), and (ii) referring to an article that announces "By Jared Carvalho" (I believe that Jared is a man's name).
Flynn is a living person; if there really are concerns about the article about him, then the place to ask for help is WP:BLP/N. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:48, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Housing Association

I am working on a business plan at the moment. I am interested in researching housing associations. I was mugged three times in six months 3yrs ago. Each time i was found unconcious. Twice I had a bleed on the brain. This led to severe disabilities as is proberbly noticible from my poor spelling and typing. I also have difficulty reading on line. downloading and printing is more practical and user for me. It helps me to highlight and add notes etc. I would appreciate your advise/assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N-joyyourFuture123 ( talkcontribs) 01:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Back to the toplink

Hi it would be useful to have a back to th top of page arrow on thepage you arre browsing Kind rregards Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.232.78 ( talk) 02:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Some pages do have icons created by {{ skip to top and bottom}}, such as at the WP:TEAHOUSE. But it's not used on article pages. RudolfRed ( talk) 02:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)