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Using physical newspaper as sources

Hello, I was editing a draft and I noticed that someone had cited a cutting of a newspaper as a post on Instagram. See this here [1]. My question: is it the right way to source physical newspapers coverages for which no link is available? If no, what is the right way? Or they can't be used at all? Thank you.

Nomadicghumakkad ( talk) 13:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Nomadicghumakkad. It is acceptable to cite a newspaper article that is not available online, but you should not link to a copy that is not from the newspaper's website. That is a copyright violation. The reference should include the article title, the author, the name of the newspaper, the city if not part of the newspaper's name, the page number and the date of publication. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

inhumane and degrading treatment

inhumane and degrading treatment a victim of enforced disappearance (quebec) premeditated murder tax fraud (fed/prov) no due process no statute of limitations need shadow councel no help anywhere ( talk) 13:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? If not this is probably not the venue that you're looking for. I'm afraid I don't have any particular suggestions for where it'd be best to go instead. -- Paultalk❭ 13:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps the loony bin.-- Mr. 123453334 ( talk) 21:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Mr. 123453334, that's not a particular nice way to speak about our misguided Teahouse guest. Zindor ( talk) 21:47, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding impartiality and language barriers

Hello, I was wondering: Some things might be very clear to anyone from a certain country, who speaks a certain language, but they might not be clear at all the people who are not in that group.

Sometimes, reputable English language sources will write about such things, but get them very wrong. Because they are reputable, and there are few other English language sources, other reputable English language sources might reiterate the same erroneous information. Sometimes this goes on for decades, with nobody correcting these errors.

What I want to know is: What is Wikipedia's stance when it comes to cases like this? I know about WP:NPV, but I've also seen a lot of arguments boiling down to "because all the important English-speaking people say so it has to be true, even if every single source in the original language says otherwise", and most of the time these are the arguments that end up having the final say. To me that hardly seems neutral/impartial.

And it's not too bad if you can come up with sources in the original language, but what about cases where you cannot even find an academic source in the original language, because it's something like the definition of a word, or even common sense, that nobody cares to write about because of how obvious it is?

I haven't personally gotten involved with stuff like this (yet, maybe), it's just that I've seen a lot of it around and would like to know in advance what the official stance is and how to deal with it if I do encounter it. ( talk) 14:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Do you have an example? —[ AlanM1 ( talk)]— 05:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I haven't actually encountered any problems with this (yet, maybe) but: "Standard Tokyo Japanese" and "Tokyo Japanese" being used as synonyms for "standard Japanese" is pretty common in English, but "standard Japanese" and "Tokyo Japanese" are in fact two completely different things, not to mention how "Tokyo Japanese" is a badly-defined term that could mean one or more of half a dozen different dialects.
A Google search of "standard Tokyo Japanese" term turns up lots of seemingly reputable sources, some academic, and there are even a few Japanese ones that seem to have reverse-imported usage of the term as a translation for the Japanese word for "standard Japanese". While "Tokyo Japanese" does have a load of different definitions that nobody can agree on, though, the one thing that the academics do seem to have agreed on is that it is not standard Japanese.
My point is: If someone on en.wikipedia decided to replace all references to standard Japanese with "Tokyo Japanese", it seems that the myriad of English sources would make it really easy for them to do so, even though it's obviously wrong to anyone who has knowledge of the subject.
Is the "lots of English sources say so, thus it is so, even if the source language sources contradict it" stance commonly seen an official Wikipedia guideline/stance? If not, how should cases like this be dealt with?
There's a better example I saw ages ago, where changes by a Japanese person (that anyone who understands Japanese could see were correct) were reverted based on English sources, but unfortunately I can't recall what the article was, only that it had something to do with a historical term. ( talk) 14:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

prove the information

Is there a place to prove the information you have written on the wikipedia page ? ( talk) 15:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

In what way do you want to ‘prove’ your contribution? Do you mean, to prove that you are the author, or that your contribution is correct? DBoffey ( talk) 16:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi there IP, all claims on Wikipedia need references, for what a reference is and how to use the, see Help:Referencing for beginners. — Yours, Berrely •  TalkContribs 16:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
This can be extremely frustrating: you personally know something, perhaps because you witnessed it, and you even have a photograph. Sorry, but Wikipedia has no way to incorporate your knowledge. That's because we are crowdsourced by anonymous editors and we have no infrastructure in place to validate individuals or their veracity. Instead we insist on references to "reliable sources" ( WP:RS) that do have this infrastructure. This is fundamental to the way Wikipedia operates and has operated for the last 20 years to produce the largest and (IMO) the best encyclopedia on the planet. - Arch dude ( talk) 17:03, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Why was my article rejected ?

This question is about my rejected article(Nikhita Khan Rhino Centre),I added reliabke sources,but it is not coming.Why?  Ishaan bommakanti 650 ( talk) 18:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link:  Nikhita Khan Rhino Centre

Hi Ishaan bommakanti 650, if you have added any reliable sources I certainly can't see them. The only reference currently is a page on San Dieago Zoo's website that doesn't mention Nikhita Khan Rhino Centre at all. -- Paultalk❭ 18:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
That draft was created by User:Ishaan bommakanti 6548. Why are you using two different accounts, Ishaan bommakanti 650? While this is not forbidden, there are only certain purposes for which it is allowed, and you should explain on both user pages why you are doing so. See WP:Multiple accounts. -- ColinFine ( talk) 18:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Declined four times. At no time have you provided references that are about the Centre. David notMD ( talk) 20:35, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry,I could not find any references about it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishaan bommakanti 650 ( talkcontribs) 08:42, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Ishaan bommakanti 650: I am not sure why you are not finding sources. I do not have time to edit the article myself, but if you really want to safe your draft, you could consider using some of these sources: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. Not an independent source, but might be used for some basic facts: [8].
I am not sure whether these mentions are sufficient for a standalone article, but in any case, you could have a better chance if these were integrated into the article. Also, it seems you misspelled the title: It should be Nikita, not Nikhita. Maybe that is why you couldn't find sources? -- LordPeterII ( talk) 10:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

LGBT? LGBTQ+? Something else? What is preferred here?

See subject. Thanks!  SLG4ever ( talk) 18:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi @ SLG4ever, welcome to Wikipedia. While I'm sure there is a policy for this somewhere, which another editor may find, the general standard is to use LGBT, as looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies and the many articles on similar subjects. — Yours, Berrely •  TalkContribs 18:38, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
SLG4ever the general rule "follow the sources" is usually a good principle. Use the same terminology as the sources your article is based on. If the sources are inconsistent use your own judgement. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 07:47, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


For some reason, WP keeps signing me out. why's that? 🔥 Lightning Complex Fire🔥 05:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ LightningComplexFire: the maximum length of your login session depends on several factors, incluuding, but not limited to, wether the checkbox "Keep me logged in (for up to 365 days)" is checked. If it is, your login session can last for up to 365 days with no action. If the checkbox isn't checked, your session is limited to a maximum time of 24 hours, and automatically ends when you close your browser. Victor Schmidt ( talk) 05:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Need help with citation number

USS Sterlet (SS-392) I added important historical information to the listing on USS Sterlet (SS-392), but had a problem with the citation number. Here is the paragraph with the problem.

>Her keel was laid down on 14 July 1943 at the Portsmouth Navy Yard. She was launched on 27 October 1943 in the first triple launching in the history of submarine construction.[7] Sterlet and Pomfret were christened in the building basin and Piranha was christened and launched from the building ways.<

The number [7] after the second sentence should be [1] since this is the first citation. The citation appears as [7] in References. The citation itself is correct.

I would like to learn what the problem is and how to correct it. Thank you.

Folkrelic  Folkrelic ( talk) 05:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Folkrelic: The citation number goes by the order it appears in the source code. Since there are six sources in the infobox, which goes before the first paragraph in the source code, yours is numbered #7. This is nothing to worry about, since the numbers do not actually matter; its only use is to point readers to the correct reference at the bottom of the page.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 06:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


I have got permission to draft an edit for a protected page but I do not know how to move forward with it. Please help.  YoYoRockNRoll ( talk) 06:09, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ YoYoRockNRoll: I think you mean an edit request. The page has instructions on how to do so. Be sure to state your change clearly and unambiguously, like "change X to Y", and provide reliable sources.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 06:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, YoYoRockNRoll, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm a little concerned by your words "I have got permission" - I'm not sure what you mean by it. If you mean, from or on behalf of the subject of the article, then you need to understand that such permission is not relevant to Wikipedia. Nobody, and particularly not the subject, has ownership of an article. If information is in a reliable published source, and a consensus of Wikipedia editors agrees that it is encyclopaedic, then the information should be in the article even if the subject does not want it there. Conversely, if information is not available in a reliable published source, or if the consensus of WIkipedia editors is that it is not encyclopaedic, then it should not be in an article even if the subject wants it there. -- ColinFine ( talk) 13:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Change username

How do I change my username  BigbadFelzo ( talk) 06:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, BigbadFelzo. The easiest thing is to abandon use of your current account and never use it again. You can then start a new account and resume editing. If your situation is more complex, then please read Wikipedia:Changing username. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


How to edit, and make them searchable on Google? David Bobby George quotes ( talk) 07:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, David Bobby George quotes. Self-promotion is forbidden on Wikipedia, and visibility in Google searches is not our objective. Our goal is to build a comprehensive neutral encyclopedia. Google strives to link to high quality content, not spam. If our content is excellent, Google will index it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

To translate a existed Wikipedia academic article into my language

I willingly need help to understand how this works

Hello. I am a newcomer from Myanmar, Asia and I am studying Food engineering . I mostly read articles from wiki as I believe it's reliable enough for me. Thou reading articles in English is fine for me , I intend to translate some academic articles to my language (if it is legit) in order to help my local people and students to learn about their subject more quickly and conveniently.

I understand that reading in original language written by the author can gives more information but I also have difficulties in reading sometimes, as I have to read the whole article to understand about it absolutely and hard to read overview. This make me slow in my academic learning (self-learning). I think that other local people who are learning the same subject and as weak as me in English have the same trouble too so this is why I want to translate. This will be probably a small help for them too.

In conclusion , I would like to ask my senior editors about how to translate an (academic) article in Wikipedia and want to know it is legit to translate academic articles (I am too concern about policy).

Thank you for reading my request and I wish all be fine to withstand this pandemic.

From  SDG Hidgeright ( talk) 07:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ SDG Hidgeright: Hello fellow translator! I also do some translating, albeit the opposite direction from Mandarin to English. If you're planning on translating into Burmese (or another language), then you should be following the guidelines and policies on the Burmese Wikipedia, since that's where the final article will be. However, I believe that the general gist of it is about the same: to stay in a neutral point of view, make everything verifiable, and don't use original research. For translators, there's a tool called Content Translation that you can use to translate line by line. I personally don't use the tool, but I prefer to built the article ground up using the source article as a guide only since I can't access some of the print references used in some articles. Translating is a underappreciated endeavor sometimes, so I commend your efforts and wish you the best of luck!  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 08:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

The new, translated article must credit the source article. The recommended way to do this is to do both of the following:

  • (a) Provide in the first edit summary of the target article a statement of your translation, together with an interlanguage link to the source (translated-from) article. Example: Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of French article]]; see its history for attribution.
  • (b) Place the template {{ Translated page}} on the target article's talk page.
Hope this helps. David notMD ( talk) 09:09, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Question from User:MITU12

Jai Jai Swami Samartha ==== Heading text ====  MITU12 ( talk) 07:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ MITU12: Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia?  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 08:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Citation error

The article Doraemon begins with the 3rd citation, could you please edit and solve the problem? -- Atlantis77177 ( talk) 09:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

References 1 and 2 are in the Infobox. This is considered normal practice. David notMD ( talk) 09:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


Hello! So, I've been aware of these things called portals for a while. I'm not sure about the actual definition, but I've seen a few and looked around a few, and I want to know what the criteria for a portal is. So, for example, the page on Michigan has loads of categories and linked pages at the bottom - e.g large cities, crime, protected areas. Would there be a separate portal for Michigan or would it just be classified as a category under States in America? And what is the purpose of a portal anyway? Thanks!  Fawnstream ( talk) 09:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Fawnstream, yep, see Portal:Michigan for Michigan's portal. — Yours, Berrely •  TalkContribs 10:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Berrely Ah, thank you so much! This is the second time you've come to my rescue, haha. Fawnstream ( talk) 10:12, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Fawnstream, to amplify your understanding: portals are a kind of knowledge gathering. It's like, say, a portal of Michigan, where there would be a combination of general knowledge about the state, as you can see in Portal:Michigan. Gerald WL 12:59, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Gerald Waldo Luis Thank you! Fawnstream ( talk) 13:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


Why doesn't anyone nominate Wikipedia for WP:GA. It seems ready, or I felt so. Comments.-- Atlantis77177 ( talk) 10:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Atlantis77177: Hi, Teahouse is not exactly the right place for this question - if you think the article should be nominated you are absolutely free to do so - the steps are described over here WP:GAI. Hope my answer was of help to you. CommanderWaterford ( talk) 10:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Update tags, citation needed, and some not so reliable sources. — Yours, Berrely •  TalkContribs 10:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing 116th United States Congress (section)

My edits are never accepted so I'd like to flag a necessary update to 116th United States Congress to reflect that Kamala Harris has replaced Mike Pence and Chuck Schumer is Majority Leader.  Serenwyl ( talk) 10:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi @ Serenwyl:, Teahouse is not the right place for discussing any article disputes - you need to address this on the Discussion Page of the mentioned article. Hope my answer was of help for you. CommanderWaterford ( talk) 10:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Serenwyl: I think you are referring to the fact that the article you refer to is protected from editing by some users. If you wish to propose a change, please make a formal edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, Talk:116th United States Congress. 331dot ( talk) 10:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Serenwyl: I would add that the current session of Congress is the 117th United States Congress. 331dot ( talk) 10:57, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Asking subjects of BLPs for image

Hello, I am a new Wikipedian, I wasn't able to find info on this question in policy searches: is it acceptable for me to contact a person that is the subject of an active BLP page to ask them to upload a compliant photo to commons? For example, on this page I edited there is no photo and searching online and commons shows no photos with proper permissions, I don't have any relationship with the subject, is it acceptable per wiki policy to email them to ask them to upload a photo? Then I can add it to the page if they do? Is this acceptable? CosmicNotes ( talk) 11:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  CosmicNotes ( talk) 11:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, CosmicNotes. Wikipedia has no control over who e-mails whom off-wiki. Assuming you have the person's e-mail address, you can try to get them to upload a selfie as you suggest. Note that they have to hold the copyright to the photo, which usually means that they themselves took the image, which is why I used the term "selfie". And they have to be prepared to license the image as CC-BY-SA-4.0 which means others will be able to use it for any purpose. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 12:24, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Michael D. Turnbull for the insight. I will try this as I was able to find the subject's email. Would CC-BY-NC 4.0 also work for their image upload (non-commercial)? and if I reach out and they upload, do I need to declare this contact when putting up the photos? Seems it would not be COI since I would have no relationship with the person, simply adding their photo after requesting it? Please advise, I would like to follow the rules properly. Thanks. CosmicNotes ( talk) 01:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ CosmicNotes: I'm afraid that the NC license doesn't work for Commons. This confuses some people as Wikipedia itself doesn't count as a commercial use. However, once loaded to Commons anyone can download and use the image for any purpose, even a commercial purpose (see "this page on Commons". for the details). It is perhaps because of this that many people who are subjects of a BLP here don't want to upload an image. Given that unscrupulous scammers and others will just hijack a copyrighted image from the web in any case, I think it is better to have one available in Commons, but I'm not a celebrity.... There is an additional problem in that even if you are sent a photograph by the person in question, you cannot upload it to Commons yourself because you don't personally own the copyright. Either the individual has to do that by creating their own account on Commons or the two of you have to follow something called the OTRS process whereby you upload but the subject (and copyright holder) e-mails to confirm they have given you the permission to upload their file. See "OTRS page on Commons". for details. All this may sound a little daunting but I've used the process myself and it works well given the owner of the copyright is willing to do the e-mail. COI doesn't arise. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 12:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Michael D. Turnbull!

Please help in posting an article

Dear participants, please help to post an article "Gleb Sintsov" ( in WIKI. SeregaBeglov2020 ( talk) 11:12, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

SeregaBeglov2020, if you would like the draft to be published, add the template {{subst:submit|SeregaBeglov2020}} to the page. Giraffer ( talk· contribs) 11:42, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Giraffer, thank you for your assistance. SeregaBeglov2020 ( talk) 12:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Melody Moko - Australian Country Music Artist


Can someone please rewrite this minimalist Wiki entry:

I saw this artist win an award on our Australian Country Music Awards (on Australia Day!) and wanted to create a "stub" for other people to fill in details later.

I just want to add a completely new Topic that has never existed before; everyone and anyone else can fill in the details later.

I just want a "stub", and do not want to spend more time on it.

Please rewrite it and publish it.

Also, in future, what's the quickest and fastest way to create a new there a Template I can fill in? Anyone know???


Alex Portnoy ( talk) 12:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Alex, welcome to the Teahouse. You draft seem to be refused because of a need of a reliable source, for example this one: - there is no problem for submitting stubs but it will need to be based on at least one reliable source. Hope my answer was of help for you. CommanderWaterford ( talk) 12:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
For establishing notability three reliable secondary sources containing sigcov would be the ballpark standard in this case. The award might provide some leeway. Zindor ( talk) 12:59, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

How do I open a Wikipedia page for someone

How do I open a Wikipedia page for someone?  Constantine Kourtidis ( talk) 13:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

You write an article for someone, so long as they meet Wikipedia's WP:NOTABILITY standards. Bear in mind that the subject of your article should meet these requirements before you start writing, as Biographies of Living Persons are subject to strict standards. -- Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) 13:38, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Help with Draft Review

Good morning- I currently have an article that was resubmitted for review back in December, edited further in January, and is now still awaiting review. Theroadislong indicated that there was still some "unsourced content," but I'm not sure to what that is referring in this article. They also said they'd leave it to another reviewer to decide. Any guidance or feedback would be much appreciated - thank you!  Jcollinsycc ( talk) 13:39, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, unsourced content includes for instance the first paragraph of the education section of your draft Roy S. Herbst. Paid editing will be held to a higher level of scrutiny. Theroadislong ( talk) 13:43, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! I've added a reference for the start of the Education section. Thank you for your guidance! Jcollinsycc ( talk) 18:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Help with publishing an article

Hoping someone is able to assist. We used a 'Wiki writer' to publish a page on an Executive I work for however after a few weeks the page was removed. The company who wrote it said there wasn't enough reputable sources in the page. I wanted to know if there is someone I can confirm this with as the Executive has hundreds of online sources and others in the same business, at the same level, have existing pages. The person who published it was from 'the Wiki Expert' and the article was for Phil Lynch, CEO Media Manchester United. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  SamRo2021 ( talk) 13:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi SamRo2021 Firstly you will need to be far more specific - what exactly was the article's title or the username of the person who created it? Phil Lynch is an Australian football player, Philip Lynch is an Irish businessman, and Phillip Lynch is an Australian politician.
Secondly it is generally a bad idea to pay someone to write an article. While paid editing is not prohibited it is widely regarded as less than honest work so such articles are very closely scrutinized by volunteer editors. No paid editor can ever guarantee that articles they write will "stick", few do. Some paid editors are in fact scammers. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 13:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
(e/c) Hi SamRo2021. Please advise the exact name of the title where the article or proposed article's content was posted at. Also, did the company advise any examples of pages they had created in the past, so that you could see examples of their work in writing articles before hiring them? Please tell us the names of each one--if you could copy and paste from their advertisement emails or responses with that list of example works, that would be extremely helpful to us. Thank you.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 14:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the information, we didn't realise at the time that it was frowned upon to have someone write it for us, although can confirm it has been a poor experience. Below is the draft we saw of the article, I don't know the Wiki username of the person who wrote it however his name was Craig from 'The Wiki Expert'

Text copied from draft

Philip Lynch is an American business executive who is the chief executive of media at Manchester United. Education Lynch is a graduate of Brown University with a double bachelor’s degree in Organizational Behavior Management and Sociology. He currently serves as the class alumni communications officer for his graduating class. A keen youth footballer, he was selected for the Umbro/NSCAA High School All-Americas Soccer team.[1] Career Prior to joining Manchester United, Lynch worked at both Yahoo! and Sony Pictures.[2] At Sony, he progressed to senior vice president of digital networks and games. He then moved to Yahoo! as vice president of global partnerships and head of media partnerships.[3] While with the company he was selected by Variety (magazine) as one of "Hollywood’s New Leaders" for 2016.[4] In 2010 was selected for next up media mavens by Variety (magazine).[5] In January 2017 Lynch was appointed CEO of media at Manchester United.[6][7] In May 2018 he was appointed as director of the trading board for the Manchester United Foundation.[8] References 1. ^ "NSCAA/Umbro High School Boys all-Americas". Soccer America (magazine). 2. ^ "Phil Lynch, CEO, Media @ Manchester United". LinkedIn. 3. ^ McCaskill, Steve. "How Manchester United Sees Digital As the Key To Future Commercial Success". Forbes. 4. ^ "Hollywood's New Leaders of 2016". Variety (magazine). 19 October 2016. 5. ^ "Up next: Future media mavens". Variety (magazine). 9 December 2010. 6. ^ "Manchester United appoint former Yahoo and Sony boss Phil Lynch as chief executive of media". The Drum. 7. ^ "Manchester United Appoint New CEO Of Media – FC Business". 8. ^ "MANCHESTER UNITED FOUNDATION (TRADING) LIMITED - Filing history (free information from Companies House)".

— Preceding unsigned comment added by SamRo2021 ( talkcontribs) 14:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, SamRo2021. The draft still exists, at Philip Lynch (businessman). It was created by Gretainis in their sandbox, and moved to draft space by by Curbon7 on November 19th, just before they declined it on review. If Gretainis is "Craig from The Wiki Expert" then he is in breach of Wikipedia's policies - and given that the text that you have posted matches that in the draft, it would seem to be the same person.
Curbon7 can give you more details, but it appears that the sources given are not enough to establish that Lynch meets Wikipedia's criteria of notability. -- ColinFine ( talk) 15:51, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
ColinFine is correct, the sources did not establish notability. Curbon7 ( talk) 20:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamRo2021 ( talkcontribs) 16:22, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

User Gretanis was previously warned not to do COI/PAID editing without making a declaration, a warning "which was deleted from their Talk Page in this DIFF".. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 16:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
From a person who does not follow professional football (or any other professional sport), the references for Lynch strike me as 'thin,' meaning a mention in passing, in lists of other people, and in what are basically regurgitations of press releases. Being a successful businessperson does not automatically make that person encyclopeia-worthy. If there are in fact "hundreds of online sources" those are not reflected in the chosen references. The fact that other articles exist counts for nothing - among English Wikipedia's millions of articles there are tens of thousands that should be deleted. David notMD ( talk) 16:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
(e/c Please note my post below regards a different origin story, regarding an earlier posting of this content, by a "different user" [the hydra has more than one head]).

Thanks SamRo2021. With your posting of the content I was able to locate the title of the deleted article. But can I ask again: did the company ever provide a list of titles they had created as examples, in order to sell their services? If so, please provide that list here (or to my talk page; e.g., click edit at the top paste at the bottom of the page, and save). Such a list would be of great value to help us stop this company from cheating others with poor work, like they did here.

Here's some of what what happened. After the article was posted, it was scrutinized at a project discussion forum called Articles for Deletion, to decide whether an encyclopedia article on the topic was warranted based on the concept of " notability". In short, Wikipedia employs this concept to avoid indiscriminate inclusion of topics in the encyclopedia by attempting to ensure that the subjects of articles are "worthy of notice" – by only including articles on topics that the world has taken note of by substantively treating them in reliable sources unconnected with the topic. The general notability standard ("GNG") thus presumes that topics are notable if they have "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

The now closed discussion may be viewed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip Lynch (executive). As you can see, the result was its deletion for appearing not to meet the GNG. In my view, this company had the contents of your wallet, and neither your, nor the encyclopedia's, best interests in mind when they agreed to do this.

I say this because a proper job would have entailed researching whether the right type and depth of sources existed to write an article that could "stick", and then only taking your money if that was true. If those sources exist (in your post you indicate they might), the article should have been written properly using them; if they don't exist, they shouldn't have taken on the job. I don't know the answer to whether those sources exist, but I can tell you what they posted was essentially a slapdash blurb, with mostly the wrong types of sources cited, and so manifestly they did not provide proper value for your payment. The company representative who worked on the article did all this in violation of our mandatory policies for paid editing disclosure, after being advised of them, which shows you a lot about their prerogatives and ethics.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 16:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm posting this separately because it's a tangent. I wrote most of the above before ColinFine posted, having found and focused on the deleted article, and having not found the draft. After the above post, I looked at the draft (which I will likely delete per the deletion discussion), and compared it with the deleted content and some fairly fishy business seems to be going on that I am at a bit of a loss to explain – really odd. The draft appears to faked written anew. When you follow the way it was written, it has the appearance of some content being added here and some content being added there as if it's organically growing. Yet when you view the end result, it has parts that are word-for-word the same content from the deleted article in places (and the deleted article, and every edit of it, pre-dates the draft.

You might think something like, "oh, well at some point the person found the deleted content and added it in". But no, I can find a word-for-word sentence being added, and then its citations being added, over multiple edits, when the result is a duplicate of the deleted content, unique enough that could not result from a parallel evolution. Why would someone do that?-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 16:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

The user which has created the draft also created (now deleted) article Will Scully-Power. This was also put through AfD. Their website lists a supposed customer, but I can't verify if that's true or fake. Pahunkat ( talk) 16:51, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

This hash-up will potentially lead to Wikipedia Admin reviewing the validity of all the Wikilinks in the draft, including Manchester United, Yahoo!, Sony Pictures, Brown University and List of people with surname Lynch. (Just kidding.). David notMD ( talk) 17:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Live Updates?

Hello again! I was looking around on my watchlist and wondering what the 'live updates' button did. Could someone help out? Thanks!  Fawnstream ( talk) 14:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Fawnstream. It kinda does what it says on the tin (see hover-over for the message). Your watchlist shows pages that you are following (which you control by ticking the box in the source editor as you make an edit). So, you may well now be watching this Teahouse page. Later, the "live update" feature will automatically alert you that your watched pages have changed and give a new blue links saying something like "view new changes since time/date". Clicking on that link will refresh the list. If there are no changes to be seen, the blue link won't appear. Hence if you only have slowly changing pages in the list, there may be nothing to see. However, the Teahouse, for example, tends to update very often. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 14:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Ah, thank you, @ Mike Turnbull. Fawnstream ( talk) 14:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

How to fix the grammatical error on this page?

Right now this article has a section that reads Gauss's lemma (number theory) – Condition under which a integer is a quadratic residue. But this is grammatically incorrect, as it should be "an integer". But when I went to edit the page to fix it, that section appears to be part of something else and it's not available for edit. How to fix this? Thank you. -- 2601:644:8500:A520:40E5:9B36:CA3D:F2EC ( talk) 15:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  2601:644:8500:A520:40E5:9B36:CA3D:F2EC ( talk) 15:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

The dab page Gauss's lemma is using the template:Annotated link template, which pulls the text from the template:Short description template in the target article ( Gauss's lemma (number theory) in this case). I have fixed the grammatical error there. CodeTalker ( talk) 16:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding a category

Categories for an article. Hello. How do I add another category at the bottom of an article that I have updated with new information? The article already has 4 categories. They are all valid, but it really belongs in at least one more. Thanks for your help.  DP1944 ( talk) 16:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

DP1944, see Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization#How_do_I_add_an_article_to_a_category?. Or, if you're using Wikipedia:VisualEditor, click edit and then click in the category field at the bottom of the article, you get a helpful pop-up window. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 17:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Question on how to improve my draft!

Hello! I recently worked on creating this page: and submit it, but it was moved back to draftspace. The reviewer cited that I used non-neutral language and had information that wasn't cited. I went through and worked to remove all of the uncited information or to cite the information that exists, however, I am worried that I might not be catching all of the non-neutral language, as I wasn't aware I was using it! I'd love to improve my skillset at this, just started editing/making Wiki pages this year, and so if there's any advice anyone has on non-neutral language (and sees any other issues) in this current draft, I would welcome it greatly.. just trying to understand what works best for Wiki. Thank you so much for your time  Endlessnapalm ( talk) 16:42, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Endlessnapalm the first thing I noticed is the section "The More Up Campus". It struck me as a misplaced bit of advertising or even an intrusive "history lecture". Apart from a passing mention it contains nothing about Browder. Imho the draft would be better without that section. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 06:14, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I keep being warned about vandalism

On my talk page I am warned about edits that were falsely labeled as vandalism please help Thing User ( talk) 16:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  Thing User ( talk) 16:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Leave a message on the Talk page of the editor who reverted your contribution. David notMD ( talk) 17:18, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Your edits like this one [9] do indeed look like vandalism and were correctly reverted. Theroadislong ( talk) 17:23, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Theroadislong, read the whole page for context. This was just an edit that definitely looks like vandalism from the diffs, but isn't in the bigger picture. Pahunkat ( talk) 17:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

No the edit was not vandalism it was in the nonsense/vandalism category on an article that was not meant to be an informational article Thing User ( talk) 17:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Thing User. Disclosing what you are doing in your edits, by using edit summaries to explain your edits before you save, is good for many reasons. Many, many users do so for every edit, no manner how minor its nature, and how seemingly self-explanatory the purpose is if someone looks at the diff. Here, while your edits were not vandalism, they were of a type that was on the very high side of having a surface appearance of vandalism, in the absence of others studying the surrounding context. (I would also note that I think this edit was fairly likely to be reverted for other reasons, even if the context was known, e.g., because whereas the other edits under the "vandalism/nonsense" header are guessing as to a type of bad edit predicted as the seven-millionth topic, your edit lacked that clarity with any explanatory language.)

All this is to say, while you are not required to leave edit summaries, doing so is a much better practice in general; doing so for this edit would have been exquisitely prudent. Best regards-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 17:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

My article was removed! Please Help!

A Thousand Pictures

Hello, My album article "A thousand pictures" by Craig Chaquico was removed after I published it and had help placing the image of the album cover into the article from editors in the Teahouse. Can someone please tell me why this happened? I've written several articles about Chaquico's albums before and they were published. Please help me retrieve this article and maybe someone could explain what happened. Cheryl Fullerton ( talk) 17:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  Cheryl Fullerton ( talk) 17:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

What seems to have happened according to "the edit history of the article". is that Onel5969 turned it into a redirect because (according to their edit comment) it failed WP:NALBUM: that is, they thought it was not sufficiently notable. I can't comment on that but you can discuss this with that editor. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 17:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Cheryl Fullerton, it appears that the article has been converted into a redirect to Chaquico's article. You may want to discuss this with Onel5969, who did the conversion and cited WP:NALBUM. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 17:22, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Cheryl Fullerton - Hi. The version you published had only 2 sources, neither were in-depth reviews of the album, rather short blurbs. Therefore, it didn't meet any of the 7 criteria of WP:NALBUM, which you can find in the link. I hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 17:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Can you tell me how to restore the article to my Sandbox, so that I can work on it. Cheryl Fullerton ( talk) 18:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Click on this oid "here from the edit history". and you'll be at the last version previously available. Go into the source editor and copy/paste all the material into your sandbox. When you do that, make sure you include an edit summary which says where you got the text from, so that previous history can in principle be located. Mike Turnbull ( talk) 18:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Twisted holder

How long till the bottom becomes dark ??  Visit4873488390935a ( talk) 17:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Visit4873488390935a: Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? Victor Schmidt ( talk) 17:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Italian Fabrizio Romano (journalist) article

Hello. I do not speak any Italian, but I would like to do this anyway - how would I translate the page Fabrizio Romano to the Italian Wikipedia? Of course, the translating part can be done, but is there a special indication of a translation that I have to put to comply with copyright rules? Paul Vaurie ( talk) 17:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  Paul Vaurie ( talk) 17:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Paul Vaurie. You can find the details about copyright and attribution at Wikipedia:Translate us. But how can you accomplish this if you don't speak Italian? Machine translation is not accurate enough to be acceptable. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I can always ask for the help of an Italian editor. Paul Vaurie ( talk) 17:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Cullen328: In fact, where can I find an editor who speaks both Italian and English and is experienced in both Wikipedias? Paul Vaurie ( talk) 19:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Paul Vaurie, Wikipedia:WikiProject Italy doesn't seem very active but perhaps you can find some individual editors there who are still active. Another possibility is to look at the edit history of Italian language and its talk page. Substantive contributors probably speak Italian. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


I'm very unfamiliar with how to add images to an article, but it looks like I'd need to upload it on WikiCommons and I'd need rights to the image. I was wondering if someone here could walk me through the process or direct me to the right WP guidelines on how to do it. I'm specifically wondering if it would be possible to add the cover arts of various podcasts to their respective articles. As an example, how would I go about adding the cover art for Come to Papa (podcast) to WikiCommons and then to the article itself. Would I run into legal issues? Are there ways around it like using poor quality pictures (I think I've seen something about this somewhere but I don't remember)?  TipsyElephant ( talk) 17:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

  • TipsyElephant, cover art is almost always copyrighted, so you'd be adding it under fair use. Go to Special:Upload, and choose the local option. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Sdkb: I didn't see any local option, but I found an option for "Album or Single cover" and decided that was probably a safe bet. Let me know if I did it wrong and how I would go about correcting it. Here are the two I uploaded: File:Come-to-papa-revised-cover.jpg and File:Come-to-papa-original-cover.png. TipsyElephant ( talk) 19:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
TipsyElephant, sorry, my bad, I meant to send you to WP:File Upload Wizard, not Special:Upload. (We really ought to consolidate those pages...) Yep, it looks like you did it correctly! {{u| Sdkb}} talk 19:18, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

so um my no mans sky article is kinda not popular and never got approved

so ive had a few bumbs in making my first article and ive tried to make a not so much guide as just a note and some facts about other works my article is on no mans sky mineral farming and it kinda complicates itself because ive been denied several times so um can somebody please tell me what to do to polish it i mean i didnt intend for it to be a guide but that kinda happened so anyody who can help me polish it that would be great look up draft no mans sky mineral farming i need contributions and such as then i am ending on a good note i am trying my best thank you for your time  Wulfenitegaming ( talk) 18:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Wulfenitegaming, No Man's Sky mineral farming does not appear suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia because it's too much of a guide/in-universe. I'd suggest focusing on improving existing articles instead of trying to create a new page. No Man's Sky is already pretty well-developed, so it doesn't need a ton of help, but there are other pages that do at WP:TASKS. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 18:20, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Wulfenitegaming, you may be looking for something like Gamepedia for this. No Man's Sky has one dedicated to it. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 18:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Icelandic people categories

Hi, I started by changing for example Category:Djurgårdens IF Fotboll (women) players but stopped, as I'm not sure whether to use surname or firstname. Also on templates for example Template:Djurgårdens IF Fotboll (women) squad, should Icelandic templates be forename or surname... GrahamHardy ( talk)

Hello, GrahamHardy. Nearly all Icelanders do not have a surname, but a patro/matro-nymic. See MOS:PATRONYMIC for how to handle this in general, and WP:SUR for categories. -- ColinFine ( talk) 21:25, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Category:Djurgårdens IF Fotboll (women) players is an Icelandic category but contains more non-icelanders than icelanders, so shall I use surname or forename, as is the same for Icelandic football teams, there are more non-Icelanders than Icelanders... Any thoughts, my inclination is to use forenames rather than surnames... GrahamHardy ( talk) 22:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Am I OK to use forenames? GrahamHardy ( talk) 00:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
@ GrahamHardy: See Wikipedia:WikiProject Iceland/Style_advice#Sorting. Icelandic names are sorted just like other Western names. At the end of every article, there should be a DEFAULTSORT value like {{DEFAULTSORT:Indridason, Arnaldur}}, and the categories will be sorted like so.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 01:03, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Proof read my draft

Hello I have been working hard to create a strong article as my first creation on wikipedia. as a complete beginner it has been hard and complicated! I have not yet submitted the article for review (I believe) and was wondering if someone would be able to proof read it for me as I would like to get it approved and online. the page is called Justin Kingsley and I have made it using 'visual editor' thank you  Misletoe20 ( talk) 19:15, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Justin Kingsley. David notMD ( talk) 19:23, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Misletoe20. Please see the series of edits I have made, including some notes to you in the edit summaries I used, at the draft's history, e.g., regarding using named references, so that you don't repeat the same citation as a separate entry. Please note some of the fixes I started to the citation templates; continuing that to its conclusion would be good. In short, many, many citations are presented with a strange use of the citation template parameters, e.g., |last=October 12|first=Kristin Laird|last2= 2010

Not sure how that happened, but at least for this one, the fix appears straightforward—move the names to the correct locations, reconnect the different parts of the date into one entry next to date=, get rid of last2, which is for the last name of a second author (with none present and no matching first2=), viz, |last=Laird|first=Kristin|date=October 12, 2010. Many others are not so straightforward, as I noted in the edit summary. I am guessing this may be a result of the visual editor's various quirks and bugs, and may require source editing to fix. I suggest the Wikipedia:Tutorial for a primer, and, given the issues here, also Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup.

Note that I have mostly corrected and commented on styling and formatting issues. These are not unimportant, but not nearly as much as the content, and the nature and depth of the sourcing that verifies that content and demonstrates the topic's notability, which I have not reviewed. Best regards-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 21:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the last proviso in my post above, another user has reviewed the content, and notes it is full of improper marketing speak, providing some specific examples – of peacock language, buzz words – and other evaluative content included in Wikipedia's voice. Articles must be written from a neutral point of view, and don't hawk the virtues of their subject. (I'd also note that the inclusion of such ad-speak also violates a cardinal rule of writing: show, don't tell.)-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 22:09, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Misletoe20, in addition to the phrases identified by a reviewer of the draft, other examples of unacceptable promotional language include "visions", "deepest desires", "global recognition", "passionate advocate", "made his mark with ground breaking campaigns", and "a mandate to invent a new way of communicating with youth". The entire draft reeks of promotionalism and must be completely rewritten from the neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Please protect the Baloch people page

Recently, a trusted contributor named LouisAragon added information to the Baloch people page, with the following revision, text- 3 to 5 million Baloch-speakers (Brill, 2011) Citing - Spooner, Brian (2011). "10. Balochi: Towards a Biography of the Language". In Schiffman, Harold F. (ed.). Language Policy and Language Conflict in Afghanistan and Its Neighbors. Brill. p. 319. ISBN 978-9004201453.

Pointer- It [Balochi] is spoken by three to five million people in Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Oman and the Persian Gulf states, Turkmenistan, East Africa, and diaspora communities in other parts of the world.

But this text is not in the book-

Language Policy and Language Conflict in Afghanistan and Its Neighbors. 2011

This text is in this book- Encyclopaedia Iranica, -Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1988,+Iran,+Afghanistan,+Oman+and+the+Persian+Gulf+states,+Turkmenistan,+East+Africa,&hl=ru&source=gbs_word_cloud_r&cad=3

Feel the difference from 1988 to 2011 this LouisAragon Member is Iranian, very closely following the pages concerning Baloch and provoking.   Ali banu sistani ( talk) 19:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Ali banu sistani, it's great that you want to make sure that the page is accurate, but these types of comments should go on the article's talk page. Thanks, Giraffer ( talk· contribs) 22:12, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Ali banu sistani, it looks like you can't find the quote because page 319 is not included in the Google Books preview. You can see the same figure in the abstract of a paper by the same author here Personman ( talk) 01:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I would like to upload a profile of someone I know with a good reputation in business - How can I do this, please?

  Dick Omondi ( talk) 19:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Dick Omondi, you probably shouldn't. Wikipedia doesn't have profiles, it has articles, because Wikipedia isn't for advertising, marketing or public relations; it's an encyclopedia. Articles aren't owned or controlled by any one person, and they're written neutrally. If the person you know is notable by Wikipedia's standards, someone without a conflict of interest may eventually come along and write about them. Until then, it's probably better to write about them somewhere else on the internet. Vahurzpu ( talk) 19:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I have somehow succeeded(!) in screwing up my Talk page

A while back, I tried (operative word here, I didn't succeed) to add a Talk page archive to my Talk page. However, it a) didn't look right, and b), didn't actually seem to, er, archive anything in a way I could access? See this diff here. I truly don't know what I did wrong here.

I removed it...and now none of the section headers on my Talk page are editable, save for editing the entire page at a time. IIRC, on mobile, I don't think I can edit it at all, but I can't remember, as I dropped my phone like a dumbass this weekend and it's thusly in surgery, having its little phone guts removed. Any help? (I promise I'll never try doing really complex things again!)  Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) 19:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Ineffablebookkeeper, Could it be Disambiguation link notification for December 9? The last bit there doesn't look right to me. Adam9007 ( talk) 19:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Ineffablebookkeeper: I have installed a hotifix so that your talkpage is archived again. Whai I have done:
If you don't like the layout of the archive box in comparision to the bot generated one, check out its params, since I yust installed a quick version that "works". If you do change params, I recommend using the preview butotn. Victor Schmidt ( talk) 20:10, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I'll have a look. Thank you so much! -- Ineffablebookkeeper ( talk) 20:39, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Logging Back In Wikipedia

As MetaWiz4331, I have been contributing to Wikipedia by creating new pages, such as Alejandro Edda, Vincenzo Nicoli, Flaminia Cinque, Brandon Scott, Wilmer Calderon, Mark Holden, Denise Dowse, Charlotte Zucker and Monica Lopera. Then one day, I accidentally logged out and I have discovered that I have a session hijacking to deal with. As MetaWiz4331, can I be logged back in Wikipedia as long as there is not a session hijacking? ( talk) 19:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: MetaWiz4331
I assume you want to tell me that you forgot your passowrd, or the password doesn't seem to be what You recall. Luckily for you, MetaWiz4331 has specified an email adress. This means that you can simply visit Special:PasswordReset, enter "MetaWiz4331" in the username field, and give that big red button a click. You should then get an email from Wikipedia with a new temporary password that you can use to login. See also Help:Login. If you meant to describe a different situation, please try to be more specific, as symptoms or Session hijacking can have a wide variety of actualy causes and actual problems. Victor Schmidt ( talk) 20:16, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Help with Rater

The problem with rater

Hi, everyone. Whenever I go on any page (just any page, doesn't have to be a talk page or only an article page), I always get a notice saying that a user script has failed to load, and it says to go to JavaScript for more help. When I press the link for user script, it sends me to User:Evad37/rater.js. I usually edit on mobile web, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it,though when I go on Desktop mode, I don't get the notification. Anyone else have this problem, or know how to fix it? Thanks!  Cyclone Toby 20:45, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

For anyone wondering I put up a picture showing what the problem looked like for me. Stay safe, Cyclone Toby 20:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Cyclone Toby: Other users (including me) are running into this problem as well. A question is also posted at the Village Pump at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#"An_attempt_to_load_a_user_script_has_failed".  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 00:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


I see that adding uncategorised articles to categories is a useful thing to do. But how do you see what categories there are? Thanks Maryanne Cunningham ( talk) 22:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)  Maryanne Cunningham ( talk) 22:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Maryanne Cunningham. Here is what I do. I type "Category: (plausible search term)" into the search box, and see what comes up. Another tactic is to take a look at a well-developed article about a similar topic, and see if any of its categories are applicable. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Cullen328 Maryanne Cunningham ( talk) 19:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
There is also an editing tool called HotCat that you can use. I do not use it myself, but many editors do. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I do use HotCat ( WP:HOTCAT), but still often use Cullen's second approach to find relevant cats - look for similar subjects and see what cats they're in. Once you get a feel for certain subject areas it gets easier. GirthSummit (blether) 01:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Girth Summit Maryanne Cunningham ( talk) 19:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

How do I edit

How do I edit? Nonetherite2 ( talk) 00:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)  Nonetherite2 ( talk) 00:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Nonetherite2: You may want to try out the interactive tutorial, The Wikipedia Adventure for the basics of using and editing Wikipedia. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 00:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC) Hello Nonetherite2. You can edit by going to the Edit Source section at the top of the page in the right-hand corner under your username. User:Cirpatha


How can I get a Wikipedia Page made for YoReSpot? ( talk) 00:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

If YoReSpot is notable by Wikipedia standards, an article will be made about it. Wikipedia will not advertise or promote it, however. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 01:16, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

You will need to be Autoconfirmed to make pages. Dutch Shoe ( talk) 02:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

You can always try WP:Requested articles, or create a draft. if you choose the latter way, you should probbably come back when you agthered your main sources. Victor Schmidt mobil ( talk) 06:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Rejecting changes

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link:  Susan Wagle

Hello, I am a new editor and I made changes to what I thought were opinions on the "Susan Wagle / Kansas Senate President" page. Initially, I just deleted the paragraph and that was rejected so I added 2 credible sources and edited it to take the opinion out and make it more factual. That too was "undone". I went to the talk section and asked the user who rejected why he/she did it. The person has not responded but I noticed many warnings on the person's page. Since I am very, very new to this and still learning, can you help me figure out if this is normal and also what the process is to dispute? Thank you  I love Kansas ( talk) 02:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ I love Kansas: Content disputes happen all the time and should be handled on the corresponding article's talk page, in this case at Talk:Susan Wagle. Be aware that we have a policy known as the 3 revert rule to prevent edit warring, and violations of it lead to a block. As for your edits, some of your wording in the first sentence is an improvement, but the change is a net negative. The video is a misuse of a primary source and also puts undue weight. The election results is considered synthesis, meaning you drew a connection that sources don't talk about. If you would like to discuss this further, do so on the talk page.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 03:18, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Snooganssnoogans: Please remember to use edit summaries.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 03:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Expanding Articles

What's it be like to expand articles? Well, for instance, I happen to be expanding the articles by adding more citations and categories to and improving filmographies of actors and actresses right on this list:

If anyone can expand as many articles, they can put more information on the pages. ( talk) 03:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

This list makes more sense after I saw from a previous Teahouse posting that over years you created many of these as User:MetaWiz4331 before accidently logging out, and are still trying to recover your password. David notMD ( talk) 12:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


Would Brickipedia be notable enough for an article the same way Wookieepedia is, or should it redirect to FandomJediMasterMacaroni ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:53, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ JediMasterMacaroni: It would depend on whether you could find independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Brickipedia to demonstrate notability. I did a quick Google search and didn't see any, but maybe you'll find more than I did. GoingBatty ( talk) 04:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

removing comments from a talk page

Can I remove comments from a talk page if I had my question answered on another talk page? It seems unnecessary to have the question answered and then have someone else chime in with the same answer. Thanks! ( talk) 06:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

If anyone's answered, then you should not remove it. Otherwise, it's ok to remove it if it's only been a short while. It's perfectly fine to just leave another comment saying "my question is answered" if you don't want a reply. Note that you're allowed to remove anything from your user talk page at any time, which is interpreted as you read the message already.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 07:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Ganbaruby: There are a few items that are prohibited from removal from one's own talk page (so "most things" not "anything":-)-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 19:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Creating a page directly as a paid editor

Hello, I'm a paid editor at Wikipedia. I have disclosed the relevant information at my userpage as well as the talkpage of the page I submitted as a draft. I wanted to ask that if I can create a page directly as a paid editor directly following all regulations, a paid editor has to follow or should I submit as drafts only ?  Precariousman123 ( talk) 06:50, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Precariousman123: Just like how COI editors are strongly discouraged from editing articles directly but may propose changes on the talk page, you should not create a page directly. Please go through the Articles for Creation process so that we could get another editor to make sure the article stays neutral. We also encourage newer editors to go through AfC as well.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 07:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Precariousman123. I see that you are not disclosing your clients on your userpage. I recommend that you do so immediately. According to WP:PAID, paid editors "are very strongly discouraged from directly editing affected articles, but should post content proposals on the talk pages of existing articles, and should put new articles through the articles for creation process, so they can be reviewed prior to being published." So, you are not forbidden from moving a draft to main space, but highly discouraged from doing so. You should expect volunteer editors to devote greatly heightened scrutiny to your contributions, because a very large percentage of the work product of paid editors is non-neutral promotion of non-notable topics that wastes volunteer time and ends up being deleted. Don't be that type of editor. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:15, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Ganbaruby:, yes I was referring to the Articles for Creation process when I said I submitted the article as a draft. It got rejected and I'm currently working on editing it to improve it so I can resubmit it for review. Thank you got cearing that up ( Precariousman123 ( talk) 08:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC))
@ Cullen328: I understand, thank you. As for mentioning clients, the page has not been currently published. It is still in draft mode and I have not submitted it for review. I have mentioned on its talk page that I was paid by the company. Do I have to declare it on my userpage as well, even if it is currently a draft? ( Precariousman123 ( talk) 08:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC))
Precariousman123, yes, using the template {{paid|employer=YOUREMPLOYER}}. Giraffer ( talk· contribs) 08:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Giraffer, alright thank you, I will add that. ( Precariousman123 ( talk) 09:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC))


Hello! Is there a NSFW mark for wikipedia? Thank you! :) FellowWikipedian2378 ( talk) 07:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)  FellowWikipedian2378 ( talk) 07:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

FellowWikipedian2378, welcome to the Teahouse. There is not, as Wikipedia takes the stance of not censoring content. From the link:

Attempting to ensure that articles and images will be acceptable to all readers, or will adhere to general social or religious norms, is incompatible with the purposes of an encyclopedia.

Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 07:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Images containing wrong category

In Commons, the following images have wrong category (SVG Localized Wikipedia globe logos, v2), since the images are png and not svg. Is there someone that could gently remove the wrong category? Thanks in advance!!!

The images are:

  • File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-ses.png
  • File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-ti.png
  • File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-vi.png

-- 2001:B07:6442:8903:7DA4:E940:35D8:1126 ( talk) 08:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I have moved them from commons:Category:SVG Localized Wikipedia globe logos, v2 to commons:Category:Localized Wikipedia globe logos, v2. PrimeHunter ( talk) 09:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

an award called the five corners

hello people of teahouse i want to propose an award for wikipedia called the five corners. basically it is an award for an article that is featured in all section of mainpage: featured article, In the news, Did you know ..., On this day, Today's featured picture. basically there are two types of article that could fit in this: 1. featured article about people with featured image in it and the person is in the todays featured article and todays featured picture. then the person dies, entered in the news, and about 3-4 years after the person death it gets to on this day. 2. a very recent incident that gets into the In the news, then after the article gets better it could get into the todays featured article and todays featured picture and did you know, then about 3-4 years after the incident happened it could get into the On this day.

ok thank you for reading this I hope you have a nice day — Preceding unsigned comment added by ( talk) 10:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

We have a similar award, called the Four Award. It is given to people who start and article, have it listed at Did You Know, become a Good Article, and become a Featured Article and get on the mainpage as Today's Featured Article. Giraffer ( talk· contribs) 12:14, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm assuming the In the News portion was avoided, due to it only applying to certain articles that are newsworthy. P anini 🥪

Citing a PDF

How do I cite a PDF such that all the pages can be seen by the viewer?  Ggae1885 ( talk) 14:18, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

What you cite is the bibliographic information about the publication which will enable a reader to locate the reference (eg in a library): title, date, author's name, name of work etc, page number, ISBN if it's in a book. If it happens to be available legally online, you can include a URL as a convenience to the reader, but that is not the main part of the citation. "Citing a PDF" doesn't make much sense: if it's been published, cite it as above. If it hasn't, you may not cite it. See CITE. -- ColinFine ( talk) 14:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Image Sizes

How to control the size of the images as displayed in Wikipedia?  Ggae1885 ( talk) 14:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse. I'm going to assume you are asking as an editor who wishes to control the size of the image for everyone, as opposed to a reader who might be looking at an article edited by others want to change the display size of the image for yourself. This page Help:Menu/Images_and_media has general help about adding images including how to control the size. S Philbrick (Talk) 16:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Blocked users edits

Hello Is it acceptable for me or any user to revert indefinitely blocked user’s edits even if the blocked user provided reliable sources for his edit and everything was fine with it? 2- I’m talking about edits prior to the block

  Whatsupkarren ( talk) 14:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Whatsupkarren, If they are blocked how are they making edits? If you found an old edit prior to the block, no it's not appropriate to revert it. If the edit occurred post block how did it occur? S Philbrick (Talk) 16:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Whatsupkarren: Check out WP:G5 (new pages) and WP:BE (edits). If the editor is using an alternate account to make edits while blocked, you may revert them but its not mandatory. As noted, it does not apply to edits made before the block or after the block expired. RudolfRed ( talk) 20:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Notable Author?

I would like to create a new page for a recently deceased author; Adrienne Lewis who published under the name Alexandra Raife. She had a dozen novels published, all based in the Highlands of Perthshire. Can someone advise me whether she counts as "notable"?  Beinno20 ( talk) 15:05, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Beinno20, and welcome to the Teahouse. Notability depends almost entirely on whether several people, unconnected with the subject and not prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish at some length about the subject in reliable sources. If you want to establish whether she is notable, it is up to you to present the evidence for notability, rather than expecting somebody else to go and do that work. (Somebody might be interested enough to do so, but ...) -- ColinFine ( talk) 15:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
While listing her novels may be a legitimate part of an article, what is required for references are published articles about her. David notMD ( talk) 15:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I can only find this single interview but will keep looking. Thanks for the feedback — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beinno20 ( talkcontribs) 15:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Sadly, interviews are not considered 'reliable sources' of information to confirm notability, as the persons being interviewed may not be telling the truth about themselves. David notMD ( talk) 15:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Citing Straight from the Source

Hi there, I am creating a page for a well-known photographer. I have content straight from him, some of his writing narrating his early life. How can I site this?

I plan to incorporate other citations in the page as well when it comes to his career, but the facts about his early life may not documented other places.

Thank you.  Roj97 ( talk) 16:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Roj97. Basically, don't do that on WP. If it's not published, don't use it. If your subject has something like an official webpage with some bio-info, you can use that a little per WP:ABOUTSELF, but you can't cite "he told me so". Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 17:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Roj97, welcome to the Teahouse. Do you have any secondary sources that are independent from the subject? Wikipedia isn't interested in what he has to say about himself (which content straight from him would fall under). — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 17:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Also, if Wikipedia:Conflict of interest applies to you, follow the guidance there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 17:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
  • ( edit conflict) Roj97, if the information you have is straight from him, it's original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. If you have to rely on that information to write the biography, that is a strong signal that the subject is not notable and that the page may be nominated for deletion. The main way subjects of articles can help out with them is by providing a photo of themselves to which they own the license. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 17:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Itamar Medical

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link:  Itamar Medical

Hello, my draft was rejected and i corrected all asked and resubmit. I must admit, someone else from the conpany tried to handle this before me but now Im in charge of this wikipedia article. The rejection was simply because it was rejected before and it seems there was no effrot in reading and seeing its improved. Can you guys help me better understand why and what should I do now? thanks, Shanisun ( talk) 16:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC).  Shanisun ( talk) 16:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Shanisun, the draft was declined because it did not have sources establishing notability, and when subsequent submissions did not introduce such sources, it was rejected. Read the guideline I linked to understand why the sources were not sufficient. If there are qualifying sources, remove the current ones and replace with those. If such sources do not exist (and I'm guessing it's fairly likely they don't), there's nothing you can do to get the page approved, and you will save both yourself and us time if you stop trying. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 17:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

can't figure out how to edit a table

I want to add an episode summary to an article about a Netflix series. After consulting the Wiki Help page on editing tables, I tried to select the part of the table where I was going to add info, but the entire table was selected and an unfamiliar box popped up w some kind of table template. How do I add a row in one part of a seven-row table to insert the episode summary?  Chippy Beagle ( talk) 17:16, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Chippy Beagle: looks like you are using the visual editor. The genral guide is here. To add a row to a table:
  1. make sure you are in edit mode
  2. click on a cell next to where the new row is supposed to be
  3. an arrow appaers on the left of the row. Click it.
  4. A menu appears. Click "Insert below" or "Insert above" depending on where the row shall appear.
The proccess for adding new columns is similar: The only difference is that you select the arrow that apepars on the top of the collumn in step 3. Victor Schmidt ( talk) 17:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Displaying contents of a PDF

Displaying in my Wikipedia page the inside pages of a PDF document that i own  Ggae1885 ( talk) 17:37, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Ggae1885: Hi. Assuming you mean, by "my Wikipedia page", an article that you are working on and you are asking how to include a non-published source, the answer is probably "don't". If you can provide some more details, like which article, the exact nature of the source, and the reason, it would help answer the question more fully. —[ AlanM1 ( talk)]— 18:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Furthermore, Ggae1885, unless you own the copyright to the document it may very well be an infringement for you to upload anywhere on the Internet. Many sites do not care about this, but Wikipedia does, and does not permit links to sites which violate copyright.
This together with your previous question makes me wonder if you are trying to put original research (that is, information based on unpublished sources) into an article. We could help you more if you clarified what you are trying to achieve. -- ColinFine ( talk) 20:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
If this is about Rita Asfour, be aware that by adding an image (a self-portrait of Rita Asfour) to Wikipedia Commons (while claiming it as your own work), you are allowing anyone in the world to use the image however they want to. David notMD ( talk) 21:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Small book in a PDF file

I own a small book in a PDF file. I want to display pages of that book in my article. Can this be done?  Ggae1885 ( talk) 19:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Ggae1885, when you say you own a small book, do you hold the copyright for it? If not, the copyright holder has to be the one who releases it, usually as part of the donating content process. Just keep in mind that the content, if released from copyright, can be used for any purpose by anyone, not just Wikipedia. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 19:17, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Ggae1885. In almost all cases, the answer is no, because of copyright restrictions. The only exception would be if you have solid evidence that copyright has expired, which applies to books first published before 1925. If the book is freely licensed with acceptable terms, or explicitly published in the public domain, that would be acceptable too, but that is quite rare. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Cite web broken?

I am working on Edpuzzle, and I used {{ cite web}} correctly, yet it doesn't seem to work. What's wrong? 🔥 Lightning Complex Fire🔥 19:05, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

 Seems to be fixed by Zindor! I forgot the ref tags, so nevermind 🔥 Lightning Complex Fire🔥 19:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


Hello everyone, I have noticed that there is an editor constantly monitoring the BLP of Douglas Murray, adding negative remarks only, reverting edits by other users that disagree with him and most importantly exclusively using sources from the author's detractors. How can the situation be reported? Thank you for your help.  Ocrx16 ( talk) 19:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Ocrx16. To help us out , which Douglas Murray article are you are referring to? Zindor ( talk) 19:34, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Without knowing the situation, I would first see what they put in the "edit summary", so you can see why they are reverting. You also may want to write a message on there talk page, to either tell them to stop, if you find that their edits are incorrect, or ask them why they are reverting edits. DestinationFearFan ( talk) 19:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Zindor, this is the BLP I'm referring to Douglas Murray (author) Ocrx16 ( talk) 20:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi Ocrx16 I know nothing about this subject but a **quick look** would seem to support an alternative (likewise, seemingly, painting-with-a-broad-brush) summary that the user you refer to has been attempting to push back a tide of apologists who seek to remove (¿white wash?) negative content cited to high caliber, reliable academic sources. I am playing devil's advocate with that; without knowing the nuances, that also may be wrong – or maybe the truth lies somewhere in between these two extremes. I expect that the trenchant issue—what this should resolve on—is whether the negative sourced content belongs under WP:WEIGHT – whether the cited content "fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources".

That can be a thorny issue to resolve, because before even getting into various aspects, it requires someone to delve into sources at a granular level and present those findings as a baseline. I'd also note that sometimes when that question is in play, the best answer may not be to remove the negative, sourced material, but to provide context and/or to balance it with countervailing material. And sometimes the mainstream view is predominantly negative, in which case the subject predominantly negative treatment in our article is proper weight.

Anyway, the rub here is that this is not a forum for resolving these issues. The talk page is. I see discussion related to these matters has already been opened there. In addition to simply posting there, please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for other options to draw additional people to discussion, seek third opinions, start a Request for Comment (RfC), etc. Best regards-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 21:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Note: OP was blocked as confirmed sockpuppet account while I wrote above post.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 21:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

The Douglas Murray (author) page has been the subject of repeated, tendentious block removals of everything perceived as being unflattering to the subject - to see just a few examples: [10] [11] [12] [13] The page as it currently stands represents the mainstream academic opinion of Murray - that he puts a socially acceptable face on fringe far-right ideologies - and is based on more than a dozen academic sources. The page as it stands is an absolutely fair and encyclopedic take on Murray, but new content and discussion on the talk page is always welcome. In particular, the page could use something about Murray's ideological self-definition Noteduck ( talk) 21:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


Hello! I was attempting to create a table on the article Impossible Engineering, and something seems to be wrong with the tables. They appear in different sections that I wrote them in. Can someone take a look at them, and either fix them, or tell me how to fix them? Thanks! DestinationFearFan ( talk) 19:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)  DestinationFearFan ( talk) 19:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

On the page, series 1 is blank (even though there is a table typed there), and series 2 has the table for series 1, series 3 has the table for series 2, etc. DestinationFearFan ( talk) 19:50, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Uh, well ... if somebody does that, what goes in Series 7? Uporządnicki ( talk) 19:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi DestinationFearFan. Tables are closed with |}. I have closed all the tables. PrimeHunter ( talk) 20:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
By the way, I'm guessing "Stratoluanch" should be "Stratolaunch." And the word "plane" links to a disambiguation page. Uporządnicki ( talk) 20:03, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Thank you! DestinationFearFan ( talk) 20:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Uporządnicki Season 7 is at the bottom below references I think. And thank you pointing out the spelling issue and disambiguation page. DestinationFearFan ( talk) 20:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Spent about 5 minutes puzzling over the coding looking for a glitch--then realized someone had already fixed it. Uporządnicki ( talk) 20:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Fuzztones member add

Roger Ward was also a member of the Fuzztones and he is not listed. The garage band with singer Rudi Protrudi ( talk) 19:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Can you point to a reliable source that can be cited in the article to verify this detail? (I only found blogs and similar user-generated, unreliable sources.)-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 20:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Woody's (Toy Story character) backstory

What is Woody's backstory from the film "Toy Story"?  Grangergirl1437 ( talk) 20:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 21:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey, can someone Add a Better quality Logo Onto the Kids' WB Article? Because I'm unable to.  LooneyTraceYT ( talk) 20:53, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link:  Kids' WB
@ LooneyTraceYT: Logos are considered non-free images and should be uploaded in a low resolution fashion because they're only for identification purposes (see WP:LOGOS). There are non-copyrighted logos, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Unless you have a very good reason to change it, I would just leave it alone.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 00:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

change student editor status to regular editor

I was added as an editor on the site. Is it possible to be removed from that role and be a regular editor, or do I need to create a new account?  Myndwalk ( talk) 22:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Myndwalk, welcome to the Teahouse. As far as I can tell, the only user group (or role) you're in is WP:AUTOCONFIRMED. If you're no longer a student editor, you can delete the {{ student editor}} template on your user page. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 00:36, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
( edit conflict) @ Myndwalk: Thanks for deciding to stick around after your course! There's no such thing as a "student editor status" and I think there's no reason you can't keep using your account; you can remove the template on your userpage to show that you're not a student in that course anymore. You may also choose to create a new account if you want to start fresh. Again, welcome back!  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 00:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Notability verification on the artist, Lukas Felzmann

Hi there,

I am new to Wikipedia editing (but a devout lifetime reader) and am reviewing the guidelines on your WP:YFA. I was one of Lukas' former students and agreed to create his Wikipedia page without realising that a WP:BLP page is one of the hardest to do right. I plan on editing a few articles and complete the tutorials before tackling his page. My question for you is do you believe the subject, Lukas, is notable enough to be included as a permanent Wikipedia page?

He is the author of 6 monographs; over 30 independent articles write about his work; his work is held in over 10 notable collections such as SFMOMA and Fotomuseum Winterthur; he's taught at universities for over 25 years including Stanford, Mills College, SFAI, and CCA; and recently was the recipient of a 2018 Guggenheim Fellowship.

I also read that the review process for a new article published by a newbie editor, like myself, can take months. Is there anything I can do to speed up this process? Any other advice for me as I undertake this article?

Thank you very much for your help!  Skippytheroo ( talk) 23:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Skippytheroo: The criteria for any topic to be notable is the same, known as the "general notability guideline":

If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.

From your response I think you've read WP:ARTIST (if you've haven't, do it now). This is a "subject-specific notability guideline", which is an alternative way of being notable. For both of these we need multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject to back up the information. Therefore, before you even begin writing you should start looking for these sources.
On a separate note, you say that you're "one of Lukas' former students" and you "agreed to create his Wikipedia page". That's a clear conflict of interest, which makes it hard to stay neutral in your writing. Please read WP:COI and declare your relationship to the subject with these templates. Submit your draft through the articles for creation process so that an experienced editor can check your work.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 00:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Ganbaruby: Thank you for you for answering my questions. I will be sure to note my WP:COI when I submit my draft.

Responding to Questions by the Wikipedia Editors

I asked many questions on "TALK" and got great answers that require responses. How do I contact the editors who took time to help me?  Ggae1885 ( talk) 23:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Ggae1885: If I wanted to send you a notification, I'd put {{ping|Ggae1885}}, like I've done at the beginning of this message. Replace your username with the username of whoever you're trying to reply to. You have to leave a signature with four tildes like ~~~~ for it to work.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 00:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


Is this the right way to get in touch wit you?  Ggae1885 ( talk) 01:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Ggae1885: No. Typing the "@" symbol doesn't do anything. Try again by copy and pasting what's in this box: {{ping|Ganbaruby}}  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 01:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Removing an alert at the top of a page after fixing the problem

Hello, I'm just starting out as a Wikipedia editor. I have found a few articles that had a box at the top saying the lead section was too short, and edited them so that it included more important information from the article. Should I remove the alert after doing my best to address the problem, and if so, how does one do that? Or will editing the article automatically let someone else know who will go through and check my work before removing it? Thanks for your help!  Unaccompanied Bach ( talk) 01:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Unaccompanied Bach Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. With only a few exceptions I think(like conflict of interest), if you feel you have addressed the issue or issues maintenance tags describe, you are free to remove the tag. If someone disagrees with you, they will restore it and discuss it with you. 331dot ( talk) 01:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Citations

Hey I was just wondering. In this article I've been brushing up for the last little while there are a few parts where I cite different parts of the same sources. Should I just copy and paste the citation whenever I do this (for example, the two [17]'s in the 2020 section) or cite the additional info with a brand new citation. Does it really matter which way I do it?

Hope what I'm saying makes sense. Any pointers would be appreciated.  IronThumb3000 ( talk) 02:07, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

There's actually a way to do this: Help:Footnotes#Footnotes: using a source more than once. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 02:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Article writing

Doubt regarding article Hello there,I am Maanas and I am new to wikipedia.My doubt is that whether or not can I create an article.I had tried out article wizard and made a draft for an upcoming search engine called neeva which I didn't find in Wikipedia.But the article takes time for verification.Would every of my article get delayed like this or would it happen only for the first time?

(Note for some reason I was not logged it but it was me who wrote about this doubt)   2409:4073:2E8A:78C0:5947:3E88:DC81:3208 ( talk) 02:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Drafts are reviewed by volunteers and in no particular order. I think it is around 3500 drafts for review so it can take a long time whether you are new or not. RudolfRed ( talk) 02:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Maanas Ms: Neeva will not become an article until you submit the draft for review. I added a template to your draft to make this easier for you. However, before you submit it, please add several independent reliable sources to show that Neeva meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called notability. Help:Your first article has lots of helpful information. If there aren't any reliable sources for Neeva, it might be too soon to write an article about it. GoingBatty ( talk) 02:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Difficulty editing

Hello I am new to this. I signed up becasue I wanted to add a "Notable people" section to my home towns wicapidia page but i dont know how. Other towns have it as a section you can edit but my towns page dosent have it at all and I'm confused on how to add that.

My town is Fanny bay canada BC

Thank you :)  Arreis222222222 ( talk) 03:19, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@ Arreis222222222: You can suggest notable people (and provide references) at the article's talk page: Talk:Fanny Bay. GoingBatty ( talk) 03:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Lacuna in SPS:BP policy - think it needs an update urgently to address think tanks, advocacy organizations, academic group projects

I believe the self-published source policy regarding biography of living person articles - WP:BLPSPS - needs clarification urgently. The context is that I'm involved in a relentless tug of war about the inclusion on the Douglas Murray (author) page of an academic group research project titled the Bridge Initative [14] which is meant to address Islamophobia in the public space and is maintained by Georgetown University on a BLP article. It does not seem to be contested that the Bridge Team [15], to whom the articles are credited, is highly distinguished, including professors John Esposito Farid Hafez and Susan L. Douglass, the human rights lawyer and commentator Arsalan Iftikhar and a host of others, nor that it has been cited by other RS's [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] Nobody has been able to distinguish Bridge in evidentiary terms from advocacy groups like the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center. However, several people have pointed to sections in editorial policy like this one:

Per WP:USESPS: "Self-published works are those in which the author and publisher are the same."

Self-published material is characterized by the lack of reviewers who are independent of the author (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of contents.

Per WP: V:"Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer".

Bridge articles are written by a team and attributed to them, just as articles written by advocacy groups like the Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Innocence Project and so on tend to be. Articles on controversial BLP subjects feature articles from these groups as a matter of course: see the pages for Milo Yiannopoulos, [23] [24] [25] [26], Richard B. Spencer [27] and Lauren Southern [28] for example. However, a literal reading of currently policy could exclude them as "self-published sources", and potentially exclude anything that doesn't have a person with the job title of "editor". It needs to be clarified whether the above are "self-published" sources or whether they are acceptable for BLP articles. I don't believe those who wrote this policy sincerely intended that this would be the interpretation and I believe it is contrary to the spirit if not the letter of the existing policy, but believe the policy needs to be urgently updated and clarified to state whether think tanks, advocacy organizations and academic projects are "self-published" and whether they are acceptable for BLP articles.  Noteduck ( talk) 03:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

  • This topic has a currently open RSN discussion here [ [29]]. Springee ( talk) 05:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

I am new and Don't know where to start

Hey there. I am pretty new to this place and would love advice on what do I do.  ContentProtector1505 ( talk) 04:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

ContentProtector1505, welcome to the Teahouse. If you're freshly new to Wikipedia, you may want to try the interactive tutorial first. After that you may want to check out the community portal to find articles that require help in one form or another, or User:SuggestBot/Requests to get a curated list of suggested articles to maintain directly to your user talk page. — Tenryuu 🐲 (  💬 •  📝 ) 05:33, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

How to approach

Pages with a lack of neutrality?  2603:7000:9603:43DB:F0A1:F42C:F3EF:1EF0 ( talk) 05:01, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

You could tag it with Template:POV or a similar template (there's lots of them). You should also raise a question at the talk page of that article and ask for opinions from other editors. Or, better yet, you could try to be bold and fix it yourself!  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 05:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Knowledge panel

How hard is it create a google knowledge panel  RaviInternational ( talk) 05:14, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@ RaviInternational: Google Knowledge Panels are created by Google, not Wikipedia. They may use text from Wikipedia, but Wikipedia has no control over what they ultimately say.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 05:46, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding page/article on Wikipedia?

How can I add a page/article on Wikipedia myself? Do I need to pay?  2071mall ( talk) 05:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@ 2071mall: You should not write a Wikipedia page about yourself (see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY). One of the core policies at Wikipedia is a neutral point of view, and it is very hard to write about yourself strictly from a neutral perspective. You can't pay us to let that happen either.  Ganbaruby! ( Say hi!) 05:51, 27 January 2021 (UTC)