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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see " How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see " Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{ Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See " Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
Discussions awaiting closure
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TfD | 0 | 0 | 3 | 16 | 19 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 |
FfD | 1 | 0 | 38 | 1 | 40 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 194 | 194 |
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 8 (11 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 7 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 6 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 5 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 4 (10 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 3 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 2 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 31 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 30 (11 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 29 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 28 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 24 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 23 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 22 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 21 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 18 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 17 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 15 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 14 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 11 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 10 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 3 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 29 (3 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD
Nomination procedure
Twinkle
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{
subst:cfd notice|Category name|2021 January 16|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{ WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the
good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's
page history or
talk page. You may use {{
Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as
Protein family for
Category:Protein families. You may use {{
Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see
speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "
soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a
category redirect by adding {{
Category redirect|target}}
to the category page.
Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{ subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under " Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non- speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per
Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{
db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{
db-empty}}. Renaming under
C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on
G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here ( WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion but, unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{
moved discussion from|
WP:CFDS|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at
WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with
its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This does not include changing the plurality of a noun when such the distinction between topic and set categories is uncertain.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{ subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full
CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with: {{
subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 06:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC). Currently, there are 98 open requests (. )
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Current requests
- Category:Jurisprudence of canon law to Category:Jurisprudence of Catholic canon law – C2B and C2D: It is only about Catholic canon law, not about any other canon law, e.g. Eastern Orthodox canon law; the category is even in the Category:Canon law of the Catholic Church. Moreover, its main page is Jurisprudence of Catholic canon law (I corrected the link, but the move was made back in 2017). Veverve ( talk) 01:18, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Upmerge Category:Order of Bethlehem to Category:Orders, decorations and medals of the State of Palestine per C2F, one eponymous article ( Order of Bethlehem). - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Greater Churches to Category:Major Churches Network – C2D - parent article and template are now at Major Churches Network, following organisation rename. Rob ( talk) 18:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:16th century in the Safavid Empire to Category:16th century in Safavid Iran, C2D per Safavid Iran and per consensus in this CfD discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century people of the Safavid Empire to Category:16th-century people of Safavid Iran
- Category:17th century in the Safavid Empire to Category:17th century in Safavid Iran
- Category:17th-century people of the Safavid Empire to Category:17th-century people of Safavid Iran
- Category:18th century in the Safavid Empire to Category:18th century in Safavid Iran
- Category:18th-century people of the Safavid Empire to Category:18th-century people of Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of England to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of England to Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of France to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of France to Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of the Russian Empire to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of the Russian Empire to Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of the Safavid Empire to France to Category:Ambassadors of Safavid Iran to France
- Category:Ambassadors of the Safavid Empire to Spain to Category:Ambassadors of Safavid Iran to Spain
- Category:Ambassadors of the Safavid Empire to the Grand Duchy of Turscany to Category:Ambassadors of Safavid Iran to the Grand Duchy of Turscany
- Category:Ambassadors of the Safavid Empire to the Holy Roman Empire to Category:Ambassadors of Safavid Iran to the Holy Roman Empire
- Category:Ambassadors of the Safavid Empire to the Tsardom of Russia to Category:Ambassadors of Safavid Iran to the Tsardom of Russia
- Category:Ambassadors of the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of the Swedish Empire to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of the Swedish Empire to Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors of the Tsardom of Russia to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors of the Tsardom of Russia to Safavid Iran
- Category:Ambassadors to the Safavid Empire to Category:Ambassadors to Safavid Iran
- Category:Centuries in the Safavid Empire to Category:Centuries in Safavid Iran
- Category:Commanders-in-chief of the Safavid Empire to Category:Commanders-in-chief of Safavid Iran
- Category:Culture of the Safavid Empire to Category:Culture of Safavid Iran
- Category:Diplomatic missions of the Safavid Empire to Category:Diplomatic missions of Safavid Iran
- Category:Foreign relations of the Safavid Empire to Category:Foreign relations of Safavid Iran
- Category:Government of the Safavid Empire to Category:Government of Safavid Iran
- Category:History of the Safavid Empire by period to Category:History of Safavid Iran by period
- Category:History of the Safavid Empire to Category:History of Safavid Iran
- Category:Military history of the Safavid Empire to Category:Military history of Safavid Iran
- Category:Military of the Safavid Empire to Category:Military of Safavid Iran
- Category:People of the Safavid Empire by century to Category:People of Safavid Iran by century
- Category:People of the Safavid Empire to Category:People of Safavid Iran
- Category:Prisoners and detainees of the Safavid Empire to Category:Prisoners and detainees of Safavid Iran
- Category:Rebellions against the Safavid Empire to Category:Rebellions against Safavid Iran
- Category:Vakils of the Safavid Empire to Category:Vakils of Safavid Iran
- Category:Wars involving the Safavid Empire to Category:Wars involving Safavid Iran
- Category:Women of the Safavid Empire to Category:Women of Safavid Iran
- Category:Eastern Romance people to Category:Eastern Romance peoples and also related categories:
- Per C2A, the Eastern Romance peoples are not a single ethnic group, it is a term used to group the four Romance ethnic groups of Eastern Europe (Romanians among them). Therefore, the correct term would be "peoples" rather than "people" as we talk about a bunch of ethnicities. Note that although there have already been disputes in Wikipedia regarding whether the Romance peoples exist or not, the Eastern Romance peoples are undoubtedly related to each other, so it is not a made up or inaccurate name. Super Ψ Dro 17:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Songs written by D.A Got That Dope to Category:Songs written by D.A. Got That Dope – C2A, missing full stop; i also moved the article to D.A. Got That Dope to match other usage. – Fayenatic London 16:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Bonk video games to Category:Bonk (series) – C2D: Per Bonk (series). ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Impediments (canon law) to Category:Impediments (Catholic canon law) – C2B: It is a category about impediments within the Catholic canon law, not within any other canon law, e.g. the Eastern Orthodox canon law. Veverve ( talk) 07:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Songs written by Darhyl Camper Jr. to Category:Songs written by Darhyl Camper – C2D Richhoncho ( talk) 14:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Fletcher songs to Category:Fletcher (singer) songs – C2D Richhoncho ( talk) 11:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Opposed requests
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Category:Wikipedia featured topics to
Category:Wikipedia featured and good topics – Now that
Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates has been moved to
Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates – this is to allign with that since the category contains information for both featured and good topics.
Aza24 (
talk) 05:47, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Query: *Is* this something that can be practically speedied? Doesn't this include template coding and stuff to put stuff in the category? - The Bushranger One ping only 06:48, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose That’s not the main article of this category.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 08:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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The Bushranger I was under the impression that a bot changes all of the instances; either way, there are only 13 pages in the category; the rest are sub categories which are easy to change manually if needed.
Armbrust, sorry but I have no idea what you mean. The category description is "This category contains contains pages about Wikipedia's Featured topics and Good topics as well as their organization." –
Wikipedia:Good topics and
Wikipedia:Featured topics are separate things, hence the need to correct the category's name to make the scope clear.
Aza24 (
talk) 20:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- It looks like a very reasonable proposal but it does not comply with speedy criteria. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh okay, will bring it to CfD once this expires then.
Aza24 (
talk) 02:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- @
Aza24: you do not have to wait for expiration, it can be immediately CfD'd if you wish.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 15:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Marcocapelle; @ Armbrust and The Bushranger: please see here. 03:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- @
Aza24: you do not have to wait for expiration, it can be immediately CfD'd if you wish.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 15:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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The Bushranger I was under the impression that a bot changes all of the instances; either way, there are only 13 pages in the category; the rest are sub categories which are easy to change manually if needed.
Armbrust, sorry but I have no idea what you mean. The category description is "This category contains contains pages about Wikipedia's Featured topics and Good topics as well as their organization." –
Wikipedia:Good topics and
Wikipedia:Featured topics are separate things, hence the need to correct the category's name to make the scope clear.
Aza24 (
talk) 20:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Category:House of Reginar to Category:Reginarids, C2D per Reginarids. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:44, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I regard the current name as clear and the target as obscure: it is the article that should be renamed. Furthermore, the category needs to be purged, as the articles on Percy and Montford say nothing of such descent.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 18:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- House of Percy is mentioned as a junior branch, but I'll purge House of Montfort. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:17, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ Peterkingiron: would you like to start an RM to get the article renamed? There is quite some discussion on the talk page already. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I regard the current name as clear and the target as obscure: it is the article that should be renamed. Furthermore, the category needs to be purged, as the articles on Percy and Montford say nothing of such descent.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 18:08, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
-
Category:Gminas of Poland to
Category:Municipalities of Poland – C2C
Category:Municipalities, C2D
Municipalities of Poland
https://portal.cor.europa.eu/divisionpowers/Pages/Poland.aspx
TerraCyprus (
talk) 23:52, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, the main article
Gmina was controversially moved out of WP:RM process. In fact, I'm going to revert that move.
No such user (
talk) 20:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- It wasn't "controversially moved" since no source had been given at all that "gmina" is English (
WP:UE) while for the usage of the term "municipality" in English a source has been provided AND the majority of participants that discussed at
Talk:Gmina agreed that "Gmina" is not a term to be used in English.
User:No such user reverted without talking part in the discussions and may have violated
WP:BRD and
WP:POINT, since they stated "I'm not against this move on the merits (in fact, I slightly favor the move)".
77.191.251.111 (
talk) 08:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- The point is, we only process Speedy cases C2D if it's conclusively right. –
Fayenatic
London 12:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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User:Fayenatic london why making up rules on the go? C2C and C2D were fully correct.
77.191.251.111 (
talk) 17:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Once a fair objection has been made to C2D, it's no longer uncontroversial. And now that the article has been moved back, C2D now conflicts with C2C. No-one is saying that the move can't happen, just that it needs a full discussion – either
WP:RM or
WP:CFD – rather than speedy. –
Fayenatic
London 21:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Where is that fair obbjection? TerraCyprus ( talk) 21:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Once a fair objection has been made to C2D, it's no longer uncontroversial. And now that the article has been moved back, C2D now conflicts with C2C. No-one is saying that the move can't happen, just that it needs a full discussion – either
WP:RM or
WP:CFD – rather than speedy. –
Fayenatic
London 21:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
-
User:Fayenatic london why making up rules on the go? C2C and C2D were fully correct.
77.191.251.111 (
talk) 17:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- The point is, we only process Speedy cases C2D if it's conclusively right. –
Fayenatic
London 12:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- It wasn't "controversially moved" since no source had been given at all that "gmina" is English (
WP:UE) while for the usage of the term "municipality" in English a source has been provided AND the majority of participants that discussed at
Talk:Gmina agreed that "Gmina" is not a term to be used in English.
User:No such user reverted without talking part in the discussions and may have violated
WP:BRD and
WP:POINT, since they stated "I'm not against this move on the merits (in fact, I slightly favor the move)".
77.191.251.111 (
talk) 08:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- There is an RM on
the main article's talk page.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 16:44, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy per the ongoing RM but please create a redirect. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:41, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, the main article
Gmina was controversially moved out of WP:RM process. In fact, I'm going to revert that move.
No such user (
talk) 20:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
-
Category:Monarchs of Georgia to
Category:Georgian monarchs, C2C within the tree of
Category:European monarchs.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:44, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - it should be
Category:Monarchs of Georgia (country) per
Category:Royalty of Georgia (country). We removed 'Georgian' long ago due to obvious ambiguities.
Oculi (
talk) 12:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose - it should be
Category:Monarchs of Georgia (country) per
Category:Royalty of Georgia (country). We removed 'Georgian' long ago due to obvious ambiguities.
Oculi (
talk) 12:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
-
Category:XFL Championship to
Category:XFL – C2C: This is a
container category designed to hold categories for each of the two XFL leagues, which are considered distinct but related. The previous CfD/S changed the category name to "XFL Championship" because at the time an article called
XFL Championship was the only page in the category. The article has since been redirected and it was improper to rename this category originally.
Eagles
24/7
(C) 03:58, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose
XFL is a disambiguation page.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 20:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- @
Armbrust: What would be a better name for this category? "XFL Championship" makes no sense and should never have been a possibility.
Eagles
24/7
(C) 01:07, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- @
Eagles247: It needs
to be splitto have its contents diffused to Category:XFL (2001) and Category:XFL (2020) and then deleted. – The Bushranger One ping only 05:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)- @
The Bushranger: But these are related leagues (
XFL (2020) says the new league is a "reboot and successor" to the old league) so I think there needs to be a container category for both of the league's cats. Would it make sense to rename
Category:XFL Championship to
Category:XFL (American football)?
Eagles
24/7
(C) 17:43, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- In the header of Category:XFL (2001) and Category:XFL (2020) you can add a "see also" link to the other category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Either they're the same league and should have a single article and category, or they're two seperate leagues that should have two seperate articles and categories. The way it is right now is "categorization by shared name" which we don't do. –
The Bushranger
One ping only 22:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- @ Marcocapelle: @ The Bushranger: Okay, I've proposed this and six other similar categories for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 30#XFL categories. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:08, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- @
The Bushranger: But these are related leagues (
XFL (2020) says the new league is a "reboot and successor" to the old league) so I think there needs to be a container category for both of the league's cats. Would it make sense to rename
Category:XFL Championship to
Category:XFL (American football)?
Eagles
24/7
(C) 17:43, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- @
Eagles247: It needs
- @
Armbrust: What would be a better name for this category? "XFL Championship" makes no sense and should never have been a possibility.
Eagles
24/7
(C) 01:07, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose
XFL is a disambiguation page.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 20:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
-
Category:China orchestras to
Category:Chinese symphony orchestras – C2C: This category refers to Chinese
symphony orchestras, i.e. Western-style orchestras. It should not be confused with
Category:Chinese orchestras, i.e. orchestras with Chinese instruments. Thus, rename to "Chinese symphony orchestras", similar to
Category:German symphony orchestras.
intforce (
talk) 12:14, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The proposed move goes against the convention in Category:Orchestras by nationality. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:11, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
-
Category:People from Sunderland, Tyne and Wear to
Category:People from Sunderland – C2D:
Sunderland. See
Category:People from the City of Sunderland and
City of Sunderland. No need for one category to be different from the article when the other is not (especially since both are in Tyne and Wear). –
Necrothesp (
talk) 16:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-
Necrothesp Oppose speedy The current name was chosen during
this full discussion, which shouldn't be overturned speedily.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 16:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Noted, but this appears to have been when the parent article was indeed entitled
Sunderland, Tyne and Wear! –
Necrothesp (
talk) 16:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-
Necrothesp It looks like that's not the case
Sunderland, Tyne and Wear redirects to
Sunderland since 2007, while the CFD took place in 2011.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 16:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Odd, given one of the comments was
Support Renames to match title of parent article and reduce ambiguity.
– Necrothesp ( talk) 16:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)- @ Armbrust: From what I can see, the article was originally titled Sunderland, and then was moved to the longer title in 2009 over a redirect, and then moved back due to Talk:Sunderland (disambiguation)#Requesting moves: Sunderland --> Sunderland (disambiguation); Sunderland, Tyne and Wear --> Sunderland in 2017. That move was implemented in a way that made a mess of the history (discussed here). wbm1058 then cleaned up the mess by restoring the original redirect that was deleted in 2009, making it seem to you like the page had never been moved. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:18, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Odd, given one of the comments was
-
Necrothesp It looks like that's not the case
Sunderland, Tyne and Wear redirects to
Sunderland since 2007, while the CFD took place in 2011.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 16:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Noted, but this appears to have been when the parent article was indeed entitled
Sunderland, Tyne and Wear! –
Necrothesp (
talk) 16:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
-
Necrothesp Oppose speedy The current name was chosen during
this full discussion, which shouldn't be overturned speedily.
Armbrust
The Homunculus 16:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2021 Jan 6. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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