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Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2016

Wisconsin is also famous for cheese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ( talk) 16:28, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Additional Demonym

"Sconnie" is growing in popularity both in Wisconsin and beyond; when will it reach a level of use to add it to the list of demonyms? ( talk) 15:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

No it's not. I have lived in Wisconsin for more than 50 years and never heard this until a couple of months ago. I actually hate the sound of it. It sounds like a skin disease. My guess it is probably more of someones marketing idea of some type in which case it does not belong here. In any case, you would need some reliable source to prove it's supposed popularity. My guess it is a short lived fad that will not last long because it just sounds so damned ignorant. Just my POV so prove me wrong. Nyth 63 22:29, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, did a quick google search and looks like it comes from a store in Madison. Also checked the USPTO database and it is trademark registered to the same store. So it's a marketing campaign and definitely does not belong in an encyclopedia. Nyth 63 22:52, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
I take umbridge with several of your points. Firstly, it doesn't matter if you like the sound of it or not, as a personal opinion is irrelevant on the encyclopedia. Secondly, it is widely used in Dane County (as it does indeed seem endemic to Madison); it is certainly a term preferred by those who come from out-of-state for the university, but that doesn't invalidate its use. Indeed, I know several people that use the term, myself included, that didn't realize it was a marketing gimmick. This implies that its popularity is detached from the company that owns the trademark, and thus won't die out when the product does. Check social media around the University--"sconnie" is used much more often than "Wisconsinite" ever is. Thirdly, as you have contributed to articles on the Kohler Company, you more than anyone ought to know that marketing names can become permanent aspects of vernacular and dialect, and that beginning as a marketing term doesn't invalidate its dialectical usage (see: bubbler). ( talk) 17:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
As a further update, I just ate at the Sprecher restaurant in Sheboygan, and they use the word "Sconnie" in their menu without attention to copyright. It's definitely not as isolated as you suggest. ( talk) 18:45, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
In your response you did not address the most important point of the initial response to your post. The only thing that matters is what reliable sources say. Unless reliable sources are found that verify the use of the term, it does not belong in the article. --  GB  fan 19:29, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
I never suggested adding it to the article in the first place. I was simply curious at what level of usage it would become acceptable to add (with a source at that time, obviously). Nowhere did I suggest adding it now or even remotely soon; it was simply to suggest a consideration for the future. ( talk) 19:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
I never said said you wanted to add it to the article now. I answered your question, when it is discussed in reliable sources. Everything in Wikipedia is supposed to be based on what reliable sources say. --  GB  fan 00:39, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Climate Map

I don't understand what the problem is with the new map. Files like File:WI_koppen.svg are being used on many other state articles. I think the 1980-2010 800m res image is fine. The two are very similar looking to me, except the 2007 one looks to be based on a lower resolution dataset since it was extracted from a world map. Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota articles are all using the higher resolution images. -- Dual Freq ( talk) 21:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm the creator of the newer Koeppen climate map, and would be more than happy to answer any questions or concerns about it. Redtitan ( talk) 22:46, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Agree with Dual Freq. The new map is more detailed and comes from a reliable source (Oregon State University PRISM Climate Group). The old map is cruder and its provenance less clear. ( talk) 22:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Redtitan: I'm all for the newer map, but I was curious where at Prism you got the map (or did you use geolocated data for it?) Just moved to Wisconsin and was curious where my town is on it too. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
@ EvergreenFir:Hi Evergreen Fir, I calculated the Koeppen types from raw climate data, available on PRISM's website as raster files. I used GIS to create the map, and still have my original work for the Wisconsin map. If you'd like, I could easily look up the type for a specific town. Redtitan ( talk) 23:02, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
That would be awesome. I'll email you. Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) 23:08, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
The map was just reverted again today by Same user also vandalized climate graph on article for Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Redtitan ( talk) 07:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
I just checked the contribution history of The page they first edited - Frederikshaven - also had significant vandalism from this IP address, which is now blocked, and has extensive history vandalizing climate graphs across the Midwest (see: I suspect both IP addresses are the same person. Redtitan ( talk) 08:13, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
@ Redtitan: The aggressive language in edit summaries also sounds like the same person. Unfortunately, I am not sure how to proceed in this situation... — Eru· tuon 08:17, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
@ Erutuon: User reverted it this morning a few times, and has now been temporarily blocked (for 24 hrs.). I'm expecting they'll be back tomorrow. Redtitan ( talk) 20:00, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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In AMERICAN english please !

All the states of these pages are written in british english IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet). It is not Wisconsin (/wɪˈskɒnsɪn/ It is Wisconsin (/wɪˈskɑnsən/) [1] /ɒ/ and /ɑ/ are two different phonems.
/ɒ/ sound does not exist in american english [2], it is a british sound.

The persons who have written these words in API should edit them.

American states should be pronounced in american english, not in british english.

The current prononciations of these articles are real traps for non fluent English speaking persons like me. One believe to find here a reliable reference. In reality, this is not the case.

-- MYR ( talk) 07:57, 18 September 2017 (UTC)boi

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2018

Could someone please correct the misspelling in the Transportation-Major highways section? (In case you can't figure out the misspelled word: "transverse" should be "traverse".) ( talk) 02:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

 Partly done: "Transverse" and "traverse" are arguably both correct but they are also both more-convoluted ways of saying "are located in". Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Can someone who is a native speaker of English, has at least a ninth-grade reading level, and understands the difference between a noun, an adjective, and a verb, please address this request? ("Transverse" is an adjective or a noun, not a verb; "traverse" is a verb.) "Are locate in" is incorrect because most of those interstate highways are also "located in" other states. ( talk) 19:18, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Somebody who is a native English speaker with a graduate-level education and a profession in writing already responded. Transverse is also used as a verb, being the present participle of transversing, which means to cut across. Also, "are located in" does not necessarily mean or imply "are exclusively located in" and the inclusive sense of the phrase is made explicit by the fact that it modifies Interstate highways. Please also see the policy on implying lack of qualifications about another editor. Wikipedia is not Facebook or other social media and treating it a such is a good way to earn quick blocks. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:59, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Just because Wikipedians like sources, here's a very early usages of "transverse" as a verb: "The ceilings of these apartments were low, transversed by large unwrought beams in different directions, and lighted, if that phrase could with propriety be applied, by small casement windows." [1]


  1. ^ Moser, Joseph (July 1802). "Vestiges, Collected and Recollected". The European Magazine, and London Review. XLII: 11. |access-date= requires |url= ( help)