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older comments

FYI: BAE is all-caps in BAE Systems. BAe with a small "e" was (is?) the acronym of British Aerospace, which created BAE Systems when it subsumed Marconi Electronics Systems.

It is correct in the article. (There was a lot of discussion about this somewhere a while back; I thought it was on this Talk page, but I guess not). - DavidWBrooks 12:12, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Whoops ... I just responded to my own, undated comment from a year ago! - DavidWBrooks 12:13, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
That's a clear sign of something, but I'm not sure quite what. :-)
Atlant 22:02, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Red Links

I'll fill in the red links later. What do you guys think, can the Pheasant Lane Mall be considered notable due its regional significance? I believe precedent is against it. Karmafist 02:06, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm ... borderline, isn't it? It wasn't the first mall in the state, nor in the city, so it lacks historical importance. However, an article could argue that it and the Rockingham Mall in Salem marked the start of southern NH's relative explosion as a low-tax shopping mecca for Mass. ... but that would be pretty iffy. I guess I'd say no. - DavidWBrooks 02:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Unlike a paper encyclopedia, Wikipedia has no hard upper bound on its size, so I think that as long as we can keep the namespace organized, there's no reason not to write an article on the Dead Pheasant Mall if that would please you.
Atlant 16:11, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I think it seems like a good idea, especially because of the no sales tax deal, and the huge amount of Massachusetts buisness it brings in. - Log'a'log 01:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

area

I erroneously figured that a tiny numerical tweak by an anonymous editor was vandalism - it usually is ("heh heh I put a mistake in Wikipedia and nobody noticed!") - but as Atlant pointed out, it corrected a metric conversion error for the city's area. So I've incorporated the correct km^2 figure in the infobox, as well. - DavidWBrooks 14:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Don't feel bad -- I had the same train of thought that you did, but luckily I had my handy Geek Watch w/ Calculator, so when I did the math and it checked out, I let the edit stand (and reverted you later). I am only assuming that the square miles figure is correct, however ;-).
Atlant 14:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
It is, according to local data - 1 square mile of water, the rest of land. Who exactly measured it, though, I don't know. - DavidWBrooks 15:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

White space

Any way to get rid of all that ugly white space up top? (Sorry, I'm a perfectionist. :P) Zafiroblue05 08:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


The Cookson Link

What do you all think in regards to that? It seemed like self-promotion putting it there, but i'm on the fence, so I removed it to be better safe than sorry. karmafist 22:54, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree. - DavidWBrooks 00:55, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Nashua Corporation

I do not know the history well enough to write a correction. But I believe the textile mill mentioned was call the Nashua Manfacturing Company and was not related to the paper company Nashua Corp. -- Miked84 19:05, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

You are absolutely correct - my bad! I'll fix it. Good catch. - DavidWBrooks 19:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Distance from the sea?

How far is Nashua from the sea and from Boston? I'm thinking of moving there and I'd like to know how far it is and how long it takes to drive.

It's about an hour from Boston. Probably about the same from the sea. DrIdiot 21:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It's about 45 minutes from Salisbury Beach. - Log'a'log 01:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

Yesterday I took some pictures around Nashua, with a thought toward replacing some of the old pictures in the Nashua article with up-to-date ones. My initial thought is to replace the century-old pictures of the City Hall, Nashua Manufacturing Company and Railroad Square with my pictures of the City Hall, mills on the river, and Hunt Library Building. But I'd like some feedback before going ahead. GMcGath 11:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd say leave at least one old shot, but otherwise, contemporary photos are better. (And don't forget to mark the property copyright on the photo page, or they'll be deleated by copyright police!) - DavidWBrooks 12:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The Nashua Manufacturing Company picture is relevant to the section, so I left that alone but put in the City Hall and Hunt Building pictures. GMcGath 10:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Be bold! But if you want to add a lot of pictures, consider adding a photo gallery at the bottom. And please do try to put the pictures in Wiki commons (commons.) rather than just the English (en.) Wikipedia; that way the pictures will be available to any WIki article that wishes to include them. When you try to upload the pictures, you'll be prompted with this suggestion as well.
Atlant 12:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

South Nashua and neighborhoods

I have seen several references to "South Nashua, New Hampshire". Is this a neighborhood or something? I have redirected South Nashua, New Hampshire here, so it should probably be explained in the article. Actually, I see now that the article doesn't have any coverage of neighborhoods at all. -- Beland 15:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

As a Nashuan, if I were to speak of "South Nashua", I'd be referring to the shopping district along the Daniel Webster Highway from the Massachusetts border to the point where you can enter the turnpike at Exit 3. Other neighborhoods that come to mind:
  • Long Hill -- The East Dunstable Road residential area southwest of Exit 4.
  • Crown Hill -- The area around Dr. Crisp School
  • "The Tree Streets" -- Elm, Chestnut, Ash, etc., west of City Hall
  • French Hill -- East of Library Hill at the top of Main Street
  • "Concord Street"
  • Downtown -- The compact commercial blocks around Main, Spring, Pearl, Factory streets, etc.
  • Birch Hill -- Near the Birch Hill School
  • Broad Acres -- The area between Dublin Avenue and the Turnpike
  • The Northwest/Amherst Street
  • (Obviously missing from my list: A term for the whole Main Dunstable area)
Atlant 16:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if all the neighborhoods should be included in the article, but if someone wants to start it, I'll add to it. I'm a resident of one of the tree streets :-) - JNighthawk 07:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Photo Ideas

Is there any particular reason why the Pennichuck and Bicentennial Schools are pictured here? I don't find them necessary. There's nothing particularly important about these schools that means they should be featured over other areas of Nashua. For example, other than Daniel Webster, Rivier is the only other College that's Nashua's own. Why isn't that pictured?

Why not have pictures of other landmarks that are special to Nashua? A few examples: Holman Stadium, a modern shot of downtown Nashua, Nashua Transit Center, major shopping areas (i.e. DW Highway, Amherst St.), etc. I think these would be more interesting to the average viewer than the outside of Pennichuck. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.128.129.221 ( talk) 17:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC).


I agree. I don't see why two bland brick pictures of the schools really help people in envisioning Nashua. M. McNeish 23:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

What about one of the manhole covers? They are unique for being triangular, so they could be significant enough. Alx xlA 22:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Education

Hi all. I was tooling around looking at Nashua's HS education stats here on the NH DoE website and found some interesting data that might be useful for Nashua's Education section... maybe... Specifically, the data on high school completers, dropouts, etc. For instance, the Nashua District had a total of 160 dropouts in 2005-2006, with 61 of those from NHS North, and 99 from NHS South. That report is here. One can view additional school years here.

In other data for the 2006-2007 school year, Nashua School District had a total of 11,896 enrollees in school, and 811.3 teachers, with a student/teacher ratio of 14.7 (not a measure of actual class size). That report is here, and was found here.

From the Nashua School District's website comes more info. Here's a report showing average class size for North and South high schools. An interesting piece of data is the disparity of Career and Tech Ed classes between North and South - 43 vs. 22 respectively. NHS South also has 14 more mathematics classes than North. Have a look at this fact sheet, too, which could be one of the more useful links here...

Anyway, hope this stuff is useful to someone some day. JordanSealy 17:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

This is because the tech and career programs are split up between the two schools and students at one high school can take classes at another.-- Shadow151 ( talk) 01:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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Notable residents

Regarding my comment on re-adding Alexandra Socha... I am referring to the fact that Jeff Giuliano is listed. I see no justification for deleting Miss Socha while keeping Mr. Giuliano, but according to WP:ATHLETE, Mr. Giuliano is notable as a hockey player who played 25 games in the NHL in the 2005-2006 season. Miss Socha has played in many more performances on Broadway, surely one of the "major leagues" of musical theater, than Mr. Giuliano played in the NHL. She is currently in the lead role in a Tony Award winning show. (No, she has not herself received or been nominated for an award.) According to WP:ENTERTAINER, however, Miss Socha is not considered notable. Her page is currently nominated for deletion from Wikipedia.

By the current standards, therefore, Miss Socha's page should be deleted, and she should be deleted from the Nashua page, and Mr. Giuliano should be kept, but I consider this disparity in standards for athletes versus performers to be a blot on Wikipedia.

I have voted to keep Miss Socha's page, on the grounds that as long as this disparity is unresolved, pages should not be deleted for failing WP:ENTERTAINER, if they would pass by simple analogy with WP:ATHLETE. If you disagree with this, then please register your own "DELETE" vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandra Socha.

If, however, you agree that the inconsistency needs to be resolved, then please leave her link here, cast a vote to keep her page, and join the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability (people). It may be the case that the better answer is tightening the WP:ATHLETE standard rather than loosening WP:ENTERTAINER, in which case both Miss Socha's and Mr. Giuliano's pages should be deleted and both should be dropped from the Nashua list. But first and foremost, IMHO, the inconsistency in policies should be resolved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhsatrhs ( talkcontribs) 15:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

population

according to the nashua website it says its a city or 89,000...i think the population should be updated on the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.105.108 ( talk) 02:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The number, rounded to the nearest 1000, is not precise enough. A better-documented estimate is given in the first paragraph of the article. Meanwhile, it's only 2 more years to the next full count by the census.-- Ken Gallager ( talk) 15:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

"state" line

"When New Hampshire separated from Massachusetts in 1741, the state line between them was redrawn."

  • Several problems here.
    • It was not a "state line" until decades later.
    • The Province of New Hampshire and the Province of Massachusetts Bay were both chartered in ca. 1691 (both had previously been part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony), so the reference to "When New Hampshire separated" has nothing to to with 1741.
    • The border was not "redrawn" in 1741, it was clarified after being in dispute; New Hampshire appealed to the king, and the border was clarified in 1740, not 1741. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 ( talk) 20:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Dab page move request

There is an active move request and discussion at Talk:Nashua to move the dab page currently at Nashua to Nashua (disambiguation) to make room for a redirect at Nashua that points to this page.

An alternative has also been suggested -- Nashua, New HampshireNashua -- to just move this article about the city directly to Nashua (causing Nashua, New Hampshire to be a redirect to Nashua). -- Born2cycle ( talk) 18:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Links tag - I don't get it

This tag was just added: This article's use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. Please improve this article by removing excessive or inappropriate external links, and converting useful links where appropriate into footnote references. It's one of those (IMHO) uselessly vague tags ("may not follow" unspecified "policies or guidelines") that basically says "I think it should be better" without detailing any actual problem.

Can the editor who placed it please say what they think the issue is - what links are excessive or inappropriate? what footnotes are needed? Tags without Talk Page discussion are pretty useless. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 21:23, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I removed the tag, as I can't figure out which of the links in the External Links section was against policy per WP:EL. If anyone has any specific objections, they can raise them here or simply remove them themselves, but all of them seem either official or directly related. -- Jayron 32 22:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Apologies- what I meant was that there are too many external links in the body of the article, especially the "Schools" section. TN X Man 14:49, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 Done Well, goodness gravy Tnxman, you're hardly a new user. It isn't like you couldn't have figured out how to remove them yourself. -- Jayron 32 15:08, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I know. :) I was in the middle of a spam-hunt, put the (incorrect) tag on, meant to come back and fix it up... and well, forgot. Sorry for the confusion! TN X Man 15:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I hate most tags/hatnotes/whatever for this very reason - it's too easy to place them and there's no easy way for them to remind you that you haven't followed up, so they tend to just sit there. I wish they would automatically disappear after a week, or something like that. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 15:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Pheasant Lane Mall

The mall's redo is almost over - I plan to soon take pictures of the new signs, exterior, etc, hopefully not caught by the photo- and video-hating security. I'll replace the current sign pictures once this gets done.

NWRGeek ( talk) 22:45, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

If they stop you, just tell them you're taking photos for an educational purpose. You'd have a good excuse and you'd be telling the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.26.203 ( talk) 03:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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How do we flag that this didn't work? There is no wayback page for this url (Nashua Telegraph's robots.txt prevented archiving). Tarl.Neustaedter ( talk) 21:37, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
The link in the text was fixed; the above archive does not work. Tarl.Neustaedter ( talk) 20:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

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SNHU

I reverted an edit removing SNHU; the facility still exists (I drove by it a couple of days ago), and the facebook page for it has a post less than a year old mentioning a week-long closing. I don't see any announcement that they have closed the facility - does anyone have more current information? I suspect that the turmoil from Daniel Webster may have discombobulated real estate plans over the last year, but I wasn't under the impression SNHU was leaving Nashua. Tarl N. ( discuss) 00:42, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

When you say you drove by it - where are you talking about, User:Tarl N.? The DWC campus or somewhere else? - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 13:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
There is a building on 101a with their name on it - lessee here. That's separate from DWC.
Right you are - I'd forgotten about that one. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 19:19, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
It's a bit up-in-the-air. here is an article from about a month ago, it seems SNHU-Nashua was a temporary arrangement to allow students at DWC who were enrolled there to finish out their degree programs; SNHU has not yet decided to continue to use the former DWC campus for its programs or not. I think we can leave it pending further information, but it's not settled yet. -- Jayron 32 02:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Mohawk Tannery - Nashua, NH EPA - Superfund Site

This wiki page on Nashua, NH should include some reference to the former Mohawk Tannery toxic waste site poisoning the locals drinking water. https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/SiteProfiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=second.Cleanup&id=0101188#bkground — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.191.24.204 ( talk) 18:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

It might be worth adding a section about the Mohawk Tannery superfund site, but note that the article does not say it is "poisoning the locals drinking water". My understanding is that there is a concern that it could potentially contaminate local well water, not that it has. Tarl N. ( discuss) 22:14, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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