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February 16, 2004 Featured article candidatePromoted
October 8, 2006 Featured article reviewDemoted
December 24, 2006 Good article nomineeNot listed
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September 16, 2010 Featured article candidateNot promoted
December 16, 2010 Good article nomineeListed
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June 9, 2020 Peer reviewReviewed
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Current status: Former featured article, current good article

Featured Article push

Howdy! This article was brought up to GA about ten years ago, but fell short of FA. Abraham Lincoln Was A Good Man As one of the most important figures in history and the 39th most viewed page of all time on Wikipedia, bringing it to higher quality is one of the most impactful actions on the project. Taking it to Featured status would be an amazing achievement. Its also one that can't happen alone. I'm looking to build a team of editors who are willing to help push this article through to featured status. It will be a vast undertaking, but it won't happen if editors don't make it happen. If you'd like to join, please sign your name below and say what areas you can best help with. Smooth sailing, CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 06:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Captain's note I am retrieving this from the archives and putting it back on the page with a pin so it stays around. Lots of folks have been working hard on this article, and I think we can get it up to FA before long! CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 23:00, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Serious folks only, please. This will be a vast undertaking, you will be expected to help significantly throughout the process. You are still welcome to improve the article without being part of the FA Team.

  1. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 06:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
  2. CaroleHenson ( talk) 21:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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  1. Address issues raised in peer review
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Lettre Exchange in between Lincoln and Marx

There appear to be several sources detailing an exchange of communications and ideas, in particular lettres etc, in between Abraham Lincoln and Karl Marx. There's books such as "Abraham Lincoln und der amerikanische Bürgerkrieg" or another book in English "An Unfinished Revolution: Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln", as well as several articles written by outlets such as the Washington Post or Jacobin Mag about this. Is there a reason why this topic neither has it's own article yet, nor the name Marx is mentioned even once in the Lincoln article, or has just nobody bothered to write an article about it yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:120B:2C27:6E50:2017:BCAC:F599:FE32 ( talk) 10:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

It is difficult for us to gauge the quality and weight of these sources without the sources actually being provided. There may be reason it isn't covered from something like WP:UNDUE if it was a brief and unimportant passing correspondence. Salacious writers love to make a big deal out of otherwise unimportant events that just sound big. -- OuroborosCobra ( talk) 20:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Anon: the best thing you can do to help would be to provide some of those sources :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 20:21, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
(Though I would prefer from a more neutral establishment than Jacobin, I'm thinking something academic and peer reviewed) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 20:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
nothing was signed by Marx or Lincoln. see https://www.google.com/books/edition/An_Unfinished_Revolution/4zCAGOaofmEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Lincoln+and+Marx&pg=PP2&printsec=frontcover Rjensen ( talk) 20:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
I am happy to provide the links to what I mentioned here:
- Rjensen already shared a preview link but that preview is actually not the full book, the complete book is accessible here: https://libcom.org/files/robin-blackburn-an-unfinished-revolution-karl-marx-and-abraham-lincoln.pdf
- The link to the Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/07/27/you-know-who-was-into-karl-marx-no-not-aoc-abraham-lincoln/
- and the link to the Jacobin article: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/08/lincoln-and-marx
I have not been able to find an online pdf version of the book written in German. In passing I did find a lot more other stuff such as a paper by UC Santa Barbara mentioning it ( https://escholarship.org/content/qt6238s7h2/qt6238s7h2.pdf ) or Cambridge ( https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/review-of-politics/article/abs/karl-marxs-vision-of-america-a-biographical-and-bibliographical-sketch/FDB76F5A955B7BD4C1974ADAE942CFB6 ). Other sources include ISR etc, albeit things like ISR probably will be regarded not neutral. - 2A02:120B:2C27:6E50:2017:BCAC:F599:FE32

Quality of Dec 2020 edits

I'm making some edits to material that was added during Dec. 12-13, 2020, to correct what I see as obvious errors. In order to maintain the quality of this article, perhaps someone with more expertise on this subject matter could review that material in more detail? Thanks. -- HLachman ( talk) 11:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)